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2020.08.03 04:07 ValentinePatch1999 I need advice and tips for the time I have left in college.

I’m (21M) an incoming senior in college who is looking for a relationship or at least a fling in the three semesters I have left. I say three because my insecurity on choosing a major forced me to take one more semester.
My college is bringing back classrooms for the fall 2020 semester with some adjustments like switching rooms, requiring masks, and applying social distancing for obvious reasons.
I’m at least 5’6” with slight muscles covered by a layer of fat. Think a very slightly toned and slightly thinner pillsbury doughboy. I started doing CrossFit since late May, which has kinda built up my frame. However, I don’t know if this will help me in the dating atmosphere. However, I’ve seen plus size individuals land girls that don’t look too bad so you never know.
Now, I don’t know if this is weird at my age, but I have never ever had a girlfriend, let alone a first kiss. I have tried to talk to girls in the past but one of three outcomes has happened: 1. They only think of me as a friend. 2. They mention their boyfriend. 3. They’re just not that into me. I’ve tried tinder and bumble but they never bore any fruit. I’ve also tried to talk to girls at the bars near campus but they’ve always been hard to get or with a group of friends/boyfriend. As of now, I’m out of options.
I’m not looking for a perfect 10 supermodel level girl. I’m just looking for someone who understands me for who I am and doesn’t fail in the look department. I’d settle for at least a 6 or 7 in looks but an 8 in personality. I’m also looking for someone who also takes care of herself and is healthy not only physically but mentally too. I’m also open with someone at most 4 years younger than me but also at most 3 years older than me. I have standards, but I’m not picky.
I’ve seen relationships that have failed because of dating for the wrong reasons that originate from someone’s mental health, whether it’s getting back at someone else, simple convenience, leeching off someone’s money, etc. Because of that, I’m no stranger to red flags when talking to a girl, but I feel like I don’t project myself enough. Maybe it has something to do with my low confidence level but I don’t know.
The closest I have ever gotten with a girl was with a semi-goth dark haired girl (21F) in the same class as me before family obligations forced her to take online classes back in her hometown. I decided to go on her Facebook profile a few months later and saw that she was engaged to another guy. I was understandably upset but eventually moved on. That was two years ago.
Now, in the time I have left, I know this pandemic will limit the chances I have to talk to girls but that doesn’t mean I’m giving up. I just need to do myself some favors and find a way to boost my confidence and limit my loneliness. I know that will go a long way, but I’m open to receive any other advice you guys throw my way.
TLDR: I need some dating advice for the last year and a half I have left. I don’t want to still end up as a pathetic virgin by the time I graduate.
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2020.07.14 23:47 quarenqueening2020 THE MVP100 LIST - Big Law onboarding associates the pandemic from Healthy to Seriously Sick

Real firm culture talk - Are they your ride or die firm, or will they ghost you in a pandemic? Forget Chambers and the V100 list, because actions speak louder than stats. Like Warren Buffet says - you never know who was swimming without shorts, until the tide goes out.
The pandemic has revealed Big Law's real top tier players.
The rough score: Top Tier 10% are starting associates in the fall; Cum Laude 30% committed to starting associates in fall or providing a stipend; Passing 50% have committed to a firm start date.
Healthy Heroes
Starting associates in with little delay.
  1. Covington & Burling (Sept/Oct – remote onboarding)
  2. Debevoise & Plimpton (Sept/Oct – remote onboarding)
  3. Hunton Andrews Kurth (Sept/Oct)
  4. Kirkland & Ellis (Oct - with full benefits starting Aug + 10k)
  5. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer (Oct)
  6. Quinn Emanuel (Oct - remote onboarding)
  7. Cravath (Oct/Nov)
  8. Wachtell Lipton (Oct/Nov – PTO for the bar)
  9. Milbank (choice of Oct or Jan start dates – remote onboarding, PTO for the bar)
  10. McDermott Will & Emery (choice of Oct or Jan start dates)
  11. Jones Day (Nov)
  12. McGuireWoods (Nov)
  13. Proskauer Rose (Nov)
Strong Subs
Confirmed a start date and compensation for the delay.
  1. Hogan Lovells (Jan – 25k)
  2. Holland & Knight (Jan – 17.5k)
  3. Bass, Berry & Sims (Jan – 20k)
  4. Mayer Brown (Jan – 15k + medical insurance)
  5. Reed Smith (Jan – 15k + medical insurance)
  6. Pillsbury (Jan – 15k)
  7. Finnegan Henderson (Jan – 15k)
  8. Katten (Feb – 20k)
  9. Troutman Pepper (Jan or earlier – 12k + medical insurance + PTO for the bar)
  10. Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton (Jan – 12k)
  11. Ice Miller (Jan – 12k)
  12. Shook, Hardy & Bacon (Jan – 10k +medical insurance)
  13. Orrick (Jan - 10k -15k)
  14. Bryan Cave (Jan – 10k)
  15. Schiff Hardin (Jan – 10k)
  16. Thompson & Knight (Jan – 10k)
  17. Fish & Richardson (Jan or earlier – 10k)
  18. Alston & Bird (Jan – 7.5k)
  19. Duane Morris (Jan – 7.5k)
  20. Foley & Lardner (Feb – 10k)
  21. K&L Gates (Feb – will provide a stipend)
  22. Husch Blackwell (Jan – 3k)
  23. Cleary Gottlieb (Jan/Feb - medical insurance and optional pro bono scholarship, Sept/Oct remote onboarding for clerks)
  24. Winston & Strawn (Feb – possible stipend, medical, public interest opportunities)
Infected & Inferior
Delayed start dates without providing or mentioning additional financial.
  1. Baker McKenzie (Jan)
  2. DLA Piper (Jan)
  3. Shearman & Sterling (Jan)
  4. Cadwalader (Jan)
  5. Dentons (Jan)
  6. Arnold & Porter (Jan)
  7. Baker & Hostetler (Jan)
  8. Squire Patton Boggs (Jan)
  9. Seyfarth Shaw (Jan)
  10. Fox Rothschild (Jan)
  11. Hughes, Hubbard, & Reed (Jan)
  12. Kramer Levin (Jan)
  13. Foley Hoag (Jan?)
  14. Littler Mendelson (Jan)
  15. Cozen O'Connor (Jan)
  16. Day Pitney (Jan)
  17. Morris, Manning & Martin (Jan)
  18. Bracewell (Jan)
  19. Buchanan, Ingersoll & Rooney (Jan)
  20. Fagen Friedman & Fulfrost (Jan)
  21. Dickinson Wright (Jan)
  22. Simpson Thacher (Jan - not allowing associates to start in Jan if they don’t sit for the bar)
Seriously Sick (either morally or financially)
Can't commit to a definite start date, but confirmed they need to delay.
  1. Skadden (possibly preparing for remote onboarding)
  2. Davis Polk & Wardewell (6/10)
  3. Paul Weiss (5/8)
  4. Goodwin Procter (6/27)
  5. Wilson Sonsini (5/20)
  6. Clifford Chance (7/8, can not start associates before Jan)
  7. Fried Frank (5/15)
  8. Willkie Farr & Gallagher (7/13)
  9. Vinson & Elkins (5/12)
  10. Nixon Peabody (5/7)
  11. Crowell & Moring (4/30)
  12. Venable (5/7)
  13. Faegre Drinker (6/13)
  14. Baker Botts (4/27)
  15. Kelley Drye (4/14, cut first years' pay 10%)
  16. O'Melveny & Myers (4/11)
  17. White & Case (7/13, but had been silent since 3/31)
  18. Morrison & Foerster (sent a calm app subscription and debt refinancing options)
  19. Mintz Levin (5/2, cut first years' pay 10% with no bonus)
  20. Munger, Tolles & Olson (fired their first years who are clerking - straight heartless)
Could be Dead Devils & Ghosts
Taking their sweet time, very little communication. Left you on read.
  1. WilmerHale (6/5)
  2. Weil, Gotshal & Manges
  3. Williams & Connolly (5/6)
  4. Cahill Gordon & Reindel (4/17)
  5. Ropes & Gray (6/27)
  6. Cooley
  7. Akin Gump
  8. Dechert
  9. Jenner & Block (6/17)
  10. Schulte Roth & Zabel (5/19)
  11. Haynes and Boone (5/19)
  12. Sidley Austin (4/24)
  13. Locke Lord (4/23)
  14. Gibson Dunn (4/13)
  15. Latham (said start date would be set by June and ghosted)
  16. Sullivan & Cromwell (7/13, but had been silent since 4/3)
  17. Paul Hastings (7/13, but had been silent since Jan/Feb)
  18. Greenberg Traurig (radio silence)
  19. King & Spalding (radio silence)
  20. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius (silent since 4/1)

No information Yet
If this is your firm lmk
  1. Boies Schiller Flexner
  2. Linklaters
  3. Allen & Overy
  4. Perkins Coie
  5. Susman Godfrey
  6. Norton Rose Fulbright
  7. Irell & Manella
  8. Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
  9. Steptoe & Johnson
  10. Arent Fox
  11. Fenwick & West
  12. Davis Wright Tremaine
  13. Blank Rome
  14. Ballard Spahr
  15. Kellogg, Hansen
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2020.06.15 17:49 Ahernia The Pillsbury Doughboy doesn't date anymore

He's been burned too many times
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2020.05.27 04:32 Ricardo_Milus “First Date"

It all started one night,
In the middle of February

My close friend was regaling me
With stories of him many romantic conquests.
But when he asked me to share
Some tales of my own,
I realized that I had nothing recent
Nothing fresh.
Now, the thought had never
Struck me before
But it threw my friend for a whirl.
If I wanna be happy in life,
He said,
I need to get a girl.
Personally, I've never subscribed
To the crap,
But to humor him, I downloaded Tinder
(The app.)
At first I didn't touch the thing,
But eventually, I said to myself
“It couldn't hurt to peruse.
After all,
I've got nothing to lose."

A couple days later,
I've got a match.
A moment's conversation,
An LOL or three,
A moment's admiration,
And that's when we agree
To get dinner.
Olive Garden. Saturday.
Far enough.
Flash forward.
I'm at the restaurant,
Shifting at my seat.
Nothing to do
But twiddle my feet.
A buzz in my pocket,
A ding in my ear,
It's a message from her,
She says that she's here!
She enters line of sight,
And my heart goes running.
Her profile was alright,
But in real life?
Eyes like jade,
Hair like Cup Noodle,
Voice like a flaky warm
Pillsbury Strudel
She sits down,
We exchange a few pleasantries,
And all the while,
I couldn't help but stare.
All was going well.
And then…
It happened.
The waiter says hi,
And he drops something by
When I turn my head
I see a basket of bread
And a single
Of butter.
Never before
Had I seen
Such a
Of congealed milk product.
Hunger running rife,
I grab the butter knife.
I cut myself a
Wedge of dairy
That my mouth waters
Just at the sight.
Time to get the led out.
I get the bread out.
One thought in my head,
I began to spread.
How purely
The knife
Makes the surface
So seamless
Quite surely
A life
Has no purpose
If creamless.
And who knew mere milk
Could be smoother than silk?
I take a bite from the slice
And I'm filled with bliss
Not even
Know an ambrosia like this!
And at that moment,
I knew
I had to have more.
I had to have it all.
But, wait…
I would certainly hate
To ruin this date…
The Land-O-Lakes
For goodness sakes!
My stomach
Like a butter
Until finally
The dam breaks.
All at once,
I lunge across the table
My hand clenches
Around the stick
Sending slush
From between my fingers
With a graceful flurry
I get a
Faceful of slurry
Filling my mouth
My cheeks
Every gap
Between my teeth
A revelation's felt
Down my chin
The liquid trickles
My reservations melt
Just like a
Of butter brickle…
But hold on…
Something's wrong…
Trying to slide
Down my throat
But it won't go down!
Before my eyes
The girth
Of my
My birth
And my
Until finally,
I give a
Mighty heave,
Sending a
Of golden liquid
Out from betwixt my lips!
And when I opened my eyes,
I found myself in the same position
As when I was born:
Covered in butter,
And alone.
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2020.05.20 11:19 T-86772689 https://youtu.be/5e7G6QJMtGU <----- Sam O' Nella's video. I just posted this here for convenience

It all started one night, in the middle of February My close friend was regaling me with stories of his many romantic conquests. But when he asked me to share some tales of my own, I realized I had nothing recent, nothing fresh.
Now, the thought had never
struck me before But it threw my friend for a whirl.
If I wanna be happy in life,
he said,
I need to get a girl.
Personally, I’ve never really subscribed
to that crap,
But to humour him,
I downloaded Tinder.
(The app.)
At first I didn’t touch the thing,
But eventually, I said to myself
“It couldn’t hurt just to peruse.
After all,
I’ve got nothing to lose.”
A couple hundred days later,
I’ve got a match.
A moment’s conversation,
an LOL or three,
a moment’s admiration,
and that’s when we agree
To get dinner.
Olive Garden. Saturday. 3:42PM.
Fair enough.
Flash forward.
I’m at the restaurant,
shifting in my seat
Nothing to do
but twiddle my feet.
A buzz in my pocket,
A ding in my ear,
it’s a message from her,
she says that she’s here!
She enters line of sight,
And my heart goes running.
her profile was alright,
but in real life?
Eyes like jade,
hair like Cup Noodle,
voice like a flaky warm
Pillsbury Strudel
She sits down,
We exchange a few pleasantries,
and all the while,
I couldn’t help but stare.
All was going well.
And then…
it happened.
The waiter says hi,
and he drops something by
when I turn my head
I see a basket of bread
And a single
of butter.
Never before
had I seen
such a
of congealed milk product.
Hunger running rife,
I grab the butter knife.
I cut myself a wedge of dairy
so legendary
that my mouth waters
just at the sight.
Time to get the lead out.
I get the bread out.
One thought in my head,
I begin to spread.
How purley
the knife
makes the surface
so seamless
Quite surely
a life
has no purpose
if creamless.
And who knew mere milk
could be smoother than silk?
I take a bite from the slice
and I’m filled with bliss
not even
know an ambrosia like this!
And at that moment,
I knew
I had to have more.
I had to have it all.
But wait…
I would certainly hate
to ruin this date…
The Land-O-Lakes,
for goodness sakes!
My stomach
like a butter
Until finally,
the dam breaks.
All at once,
I lunge across the table
my hand
around the stick,
sending slush
between by fingers
with a
graceful flurry
I get a
faceful of slurry
my mouth
my cheeks
every gap
between my teeth
A revelation’s felt
down my chin
the liquid trickles
my reservations melt
just like a
of butter brickle...
but hold on…
something’s wrong
I can feel it…
trying to slide
down my throat
but it won’t go down!
before my eyes
the girth
of my
my birth
and my
Until finally,
I give a
mighty heave,
sending a
of golden liquid
out from betwixt my lips!
and when I opened my eyes,
I found myself in the same position
as when I was born:
covered in butter,
and alone.
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2020.04.28 18:17 Shady_Lady_79 This is the oldest cookbook in my collection, so far. It’s “A Book for A Cook” from Pillsbury dated 1905.

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2020.04.05 18:45 jonsnowismybf Tracking Changes for Incoming First Years

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Superstars/heroes (firms offering fall starts)
Stars (firms delaying start but most generous with stipends/benefits)

V100 Firm

Firm Start Date Delay & Stipend/Advance Info Other Updates Updated
Cravath (V1) Sept. 21 start for 2018 and 2019 grads that already took bar exam. Nov. 16 start for 2020 grads contingent on taking bar exam. Expects remote work to continue into the fall. Offering to pay bar expenses in any UBE jurisdiction (up to 2 registrations) 8/5
Wachtell Lipton (V2) Choice between Oct. 12 or Nov. 9 start. Those who took the bar exam already or are leaving to clerk 2021 and taking July 2021 bar exam can start Sept. 21. Covering all expenses to take the bar in another UBE jurisdiction. 8/6
Skadden (V3) Deferred to Jan. 13, 2021. Offering $10k deferral stipend and additional $10k advance. No benefits/health insurance before start. Reimbursing all fees (including travel/expenses + transfer fees) to take the bar in other UBE states. Summer salary advances paid out. 8/8
Sullivan & Cromwell (V4) Offering choice between Nov. 9, 2020 or Jan. 2021 start. Will cover expenses/travel for people to take the bar in other UBE jurisdictions. $10k salary advance paid out 6/12. Email on 6/16 requesting background check info. 8/11
Latham (V5) Option to start Oct. 26 or Nov. 30. Per source's email with recruiting, will not provide benefits/healthcare until start. Start will be remote. Distributed $15k summer stipends. Email to NY associates stating it is "permissible" to take the bar elsewhere. Firm will be flexible with $3k relocation allowance. Considering reimbursing expenses for non NY people. 8/21
Kirkland & Ellis (V6) Oct. 19 start with benefits starting Aug. 1. Firm wants associates to be prepared for in-person start but is ready to onboard remotely based on office by office basis. $10k summer stipends paid out 5/29. 7/16
Davis Polk & Wardwell (V7) Nov. 2 or 16 start. Remote start (at least for NY). Inability to sit for bar exam will NOT delay start. Health coverage starts Dec. 2020. Not expecting people to register for another UBE. $10k salary advances paid out. 7/30
Simpson Thacher (V8) Start date will be mid to late Jan. 2021. Offering $20k salary advance. Incoming associates cannot start in Jan. if they do not sit for the bar exam. Firm implied it will not provide health insurance during deferral. Encouraging people to take the bar in a UBE jurisdiction. Prefer associates take the bar this year and will cover non-NY costs. 7/13
Gibson Dunn (V9) Start dates will vary by office, but everyone will start in Oct., Nov. or Dec. this year. Expects everyone to take bar exam before starting. Prepared for remote start and will give ample notice on when moving is necessary. Summer stipends received. 8/6
Paul, Weiss (V10) Staggered start dates between Oct. and Dec. Sources have confirmed Oct. 19, Nov. 9, and Dec. 7 as start dates. One source says start date assignments seem random but another said it seems to be practice group specific. Offering additional $10k advance and health insurance benefits starting Sept. 14. Onboarding will be remote. Onboarding site is live. $10k summer salary advance paid out as paperwork received. 9/1
Weil, Gotshal & Manges (V11) Nov. 9, 2020 start. 5/1 email encouraging non NY students to take the bar at another UBE jurisdiction. Will cover fees. Covering $5k moving expenses. Cash advance of up to $8500 paid out as requested. 8/10
Sidley Austin (V12) Jan. 11, 2021 start. Offering $10k advance, continued health insurance coverage. E-mail on 4/24 recommended to not make housing arrangements yet. $10k stipends paid out in June. Health insurance started in June (as planned pre-pandemic). 8/12
Quinn Emanuel (V13) Start date set for second week in Oct. for at least one office. Possibility of starting work even earlier based on individual situation and need. 7/14
Cleary Gottlieb (V14) Start date delayed to Jan./Feb. 2021. Offering extra $10K salary advance (so $20k in salary advances total). Firm will begin reimbursing medical expenses beginning Sep. Firm is offering pro bono fellowship to incoming first years if interested. Firm is encouraging people to take September NY bar (for NY associates) or else July/Sept. UBE in home state. Otherwise to take Feb. NY bar (in that order). Not expecting salary cuts/layoffs. 5/15
Covington & Burling (V15) Oct. 12 start. Not requiring incoming associates to move near their home office before Jan. 2021 at earliest. Onboarding will be remote. 7/30
Jones Day (V16) Start date will be Nov. 9 (just a few weeks later than usual). Source says someone from LA office did not receive this email. $10k bar stipend paid out. 6/24
White & Case (V17) Jan. 11, 2021 start dependent on taking the bar exam prior to start. If taking Feb. bar, start date will be Mar. 8, 2021. Offering additional $10k stipend and $15 advance. No health insurance until start. $8k advances paid out. 7/31
Debevoise & Plimpton (V18) Oct. 12 and Nov. 9, 2020 start. Associates will start work remotely. NOTE: this is updated as the firm pushed the start dates back a couple weeks. It had previously announced a Sept/Oct start option. $15k advance paid out. 8/13
Williams & Connolly (V19) No delay in regularly offered start. August & September start dates will be remote. 7/22
Ropes & Gray (V20) Delayed to Jan. 20, 2021. Offering additional $20k total ($10k Oct. stipend and $10k optional loan). Can join healthcare/dental plan starting Oct. 20 (original start date) and firm will cover all coverage costs until associates begin. Offering on a voluntary basis a public-interest fellowship for one year at $80k salary or voluntary sabbatical with $38k stipend. Encouraging associates to sit for exam in another UBE jurisdiction. Will reimburse costs for 2 jurisdictions. "If you do not succeed in qualifying for an exam before your start with Ropes & Gray, we will evaluate the need for bar leave on a case-by-case basis." $10k advances received. 9/10
Paul Hastings (V21) Feb. 1, 2021 start. Offering $15k stipend and healthcare starting October. Those taking the Feb. bar will start in March. Bar study bonuses released in early 2020. Firm has been pretty silent since. Start date had originally been set for Oct. 5. Recruiting stated to source it would be communicating within a week but never did. 8/18
WilmerHale (V22) Jan. 11, 2021 start. Offering $2k healthcare stipend and $15k salary advance. Clerkship bonus paid out early. $20k summer stipend received in June. Background checks conducted. 8/27
Morrison & Foerster (V23) At least for San Francisco: Feb. 1, 2021 start. Offering $10k stipend and $10k advance. Stipend paid out. 7/1 Email reminded incoming associates they need to take the bar exam before joining. Sent list of resources including a calm app subscription and debt refinancing options. 8/14
Boies Schiller Flexner (V24)
Milbank (V25) Firm is offering choice between Oct. 12 remote start and Jan. 2021 start. Incoming associates need not move immediately. Firm will give reasonable notice when it expects in-person work to start again. Firm wants everyone to take the UBE this year if possible. If not, they're giving 3 weeks off with pay to study for Feb. UBE and will allow associates to start work before Feb. without taking the bar. UPDATE: emailed 7/23 stating they are aware of NY bar situation. Committed to honoring Oct. 12 start and reaffirmed paid time off if bar is held in Feb. 5/4 email sent for NY associates -firm will cover full cost of UBE registration in any jurisdiction and cost to transfer score. $10k summer advances paid out. 7/23
O'Melveny & Myers (V26) Choice between Jan. 25 or Feb. 22, 2021 start. Offering additional $10k advance. $10k bar stipend disbursed in Aug. Also offering $2.5k health insurance stipend. 8/1
Hogan Lovells (V27) Start delayed to Jan. 2021. $25k deferral stipend will be sent out in Oct. $6k summer stipend was paid out on 4/24. Firm will pay relocation expenses in spring/summer if necessary. 4/25
Cooley (V28) Jan. 11, 2021 start. No decision on in person or remote but they're hoping for in person. Can elect for $5k or $10k salary advance. Plus $4k stipend for health insurance costs. $16k summer stipend paid out on time. 7/27
Proskauer Rose (V29) Said there are currently no plans to delay the “expected” regular early November start. UPDATE: Jan. 25, 2021 start. Offering $10k stipend. Option to join healthcare plan starting Dec. 1. Offering to pay for secondary (non NY) UBE bar registration subject to approval. Paid out its usual $10k salary advances. 9/23
Akin Gump (V30) Start delayed to Jan. 2021. Offering $10k advance. UPDATE: Start moved up to Oct. 26, 2020. $5k summer stipends paid out. Offering $10k salary advances. 9/23
Arnold & Porter (V31) Deferred to Jan. 25, 2021. $10k bar stipend paid out. Have option of taking out a $5k, $10k, or $15k loan that would be repaid through deductions from 2021 paychecks. 7/1
Baker McKenzie (V32) Start date is set for Jan. 25, 2021. Firm has converted $15K salary advance into a $15K loan, so that it is better from a tax perspective. 6/25
DLA Piper (V33) Start date deferred to Jan. 2021. Additional $7,500 salary advance available in October. Summer stipends distributed 7/17. 7/21
Orrick (V34) Delayed to Jan. 2021. Offering $10k salary advance and health insurance stipend. $10k stipend paid out. 4/8
Mayer Brown (V35) Jan. 2021 start date. Offering $15k total deferral stipend $5k per month for the months of Oct., Nov., and Dec., and 100% benefits through that time. Received $10k summer stipends in May. Email from associate reassured source that firm is still very busy and looking forward to the new associates. 6/10
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius (V36) Nov. 16 start. Planning for remote start. Will give at least six weeks notice on when associates need to be in office. $10K stipend was paid out on 1/1. Managing partner emailed on 4/1 assuring that incoming first year associates still have "exciting careers ahead." 8/27
Goodwin Procter (V37) Oct. 19, 2020 start. Will start remotely. Will cover costs for taking the bar exam in any UBE jurisdiction and transferring the score if applicable. Offering $15k total in stipend/salary advances. $5k salary advance available in Oct. and $10k in a "forgivable loan" that "will be forgiven 30 days after your start date." The $10k has been disbursed. 8/19
Wilson Sonsini (V38) Nov. 9 start & offering $2,250 stipend for healthcare costs in the interim. Onboarding will be remote and WFH until at least Jan. 31, 2021. Incoming associates do not need to relocate to their assigned office city. Bar stipend and relocation benefits were timely distributed. 7/30
King & Spalding (V39) Jan. 19, 2021 start. $15k stipend and healthcare starting Oct 1. May reach out to individuals with a possibility of starting earlier. 9/15
K&L Gates (V40) Start date delayed to Feb. 1, 2021. $7500 fall stipend. Summer stipend paid out this month. 5/31
Clifford Chance (V41) Start date deferred to "no earlier than" Jan. 15, 2021. No mention of additional stipend/salary advance. 5/11 email stating firm will cover bar expenses for taking UBE outside of NY. Advances paid out on time. 7/8
Munger, Tolles & Olson (V42) Deferred until Jan. 2021. Firm is offering $25k associate salary advance, $15k for 2021 clerks. No decision on healthcare yet. 7/17
Winston & Strawn (V43) Start date pushed to Feb. 1, 2021. Offering health insurance starting Oct. (but not covering cost of premium) & $4k/month stipend from Oct.-Jan. 31. Will cover all bar expenses + transfer costs for UBE for non NY students. "Details about compensation, health insurance coverage and public interest opportunities will be sent soon." $10k stipends sent out. 8/19
Shearman & Sterling (V44) Jan. 2021 start. $15k advances distributed. Incoming associates must sit for the bar exam before starting. 8/21
Baker Botts (V45) Start date delayed to Jan. 2021. Start is contingent upon taking the bar exam. 8/23
Linklaters (V46) Choice between Oct. 12 or Nov. 2 start. Onboarding will be remote. 8/15
Allen & Overy (V47) Delayed until at least Jan. 2021. Offering $20k advance. Health insurance available starting in Sept. Offered $5k summer stipend and $7.5k relocation stipend. 8/13
Fried Frank (V48) Delay to Jan. 11, 2021. $10k additional stipend. Firm is giving access to an employee assistance counseling/wellness service. Email on 4/6 to ensure they have the proper information to pay out advances (can elect to get up to $15K. $5K now and $10K once they get your transcript) and “bonus for signing on” ($3K). Advance of 5K (if person wants it) and bonus for signing on will be distributed on 4/30. The 4/30 advance was paid out on time. Firm is being flexible about taking the bar outside NY and associated costs. 7/29
Perkins Coie (V49) Nov. 1, 2020 start (at least for Bay area). 8/17
Dechert (V50) No set start date but will not be before end of 2020. Offering $10k advance and health insurance starting Oct. Positive email sent out on April 9 stated "we continue to be excited about your arrival" and "you are part of our community." $10k advance paid out on time. 8/27
Willkie Farr & Gallagher (V51) $20K advances have been paid out. UPDATE: Deferred until "early 2021." Not covering healthcare before start. Email sent on 4/22 providing information about moving stipends, allowing associates to take the bar in any UBE jurisdiction. 9/15
Cadwalader (V52) Start date delayed to Jan. 11 2021. Giving $12,500 total in salary advances. $7,500 available May 1 and $5k available Oct. 1. Start will be a "hybrid" approach. Email 4/24 stated reason for delay was safety concerns, uncertainty on returning to office, and effect of virus on ability to fully integrate first years. The firm will pay all expenses for taking the bar in any UBE jurisdiction. 8/21
Susman Godfrey (V53)
Alston & Bird (V54) Start date delayed to mid-Jan. 2021. Email received 5/8, $7,500 stipend will be paid out over four months (Sept.-Dec.) Emailed incoming class mid-March to share firm-wide update. Reaffirmed advances. Advances paid 4/15. 5/15
Dentons (V55) Start date set for Jan. 2021, "with the option to begin earlier as client demands require." 4/17
Greenberg Traurig (V56) Decision will be on office by office basis. Some offices have deferred to Jan. 2021 while others have confirmed fall starts. For Miami office: Jan. 11, 2021 start with $10k advance. Boston office has Nov. 2 start. Firm hasn't communicated anything to incoming class. 8/27
McDermott Will & Emery (V57) Option of starting in Oct. 2020 or Jan. 2021. Summer stipend is being distributed at normally scheduled date and barelocation expenses are still being reimbursed. 6/19
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer (V58) Oct. 19, 2020 start. Advised incoming NY associates to sign up for another UBE. 5/16
Cahill Gordon & Reindel (V59) Jan. 19, 2021 start. Offering additional $20k advance. Offering $7500 salary advance immediately + for anyone who attends school outside NY a maximum reimbursable moving allowance of $2,500. 7/26
Jenner & Block (V60) Nov. 30 start. Also offering Jan. 19 start for those wanting more time between bar exam and start date. Healthcare and benefits will kick in upon start. Paid out $16k stipend in May. 8/4
Reed Smith (V61) Jan. 2021 start. Offering $15k in deferral stipends/advances and can start receiving benefits in the Fall. $5k Fall stipend offered on top of regular summer stipend & additional $10K salary advance. $10k bar study stipend paid out. Insurance/benefit paperwork distributed. Firm is subsidizing premium cost Sept.-Jan. 6/10
Pillsbury (V62) Deferred to Jan. 2021. $5k/month stipend from October to December, in addition to $10k summer advance. Summer advances have been distributed. 6/4
Vinson & Elkins (V63) Jan. 19, 2021 start. No info on additional financial assistance. Start date assumes associates take the bar exam or their home office is state with DP. Offering additional $10k advance. Firm offers $10k salary advance upon graduation. 7/26
Holland & Knight (V64) Deferred to Jan. 29, 2021. Additional $10k stipend will be paid out in October (in addition to regular $7,500 stipend). 5/27
Baker & Hostetler (V65) Start date delayed to Jan. 2021. Info on salary advances will be forthcoming. 6/15
Norton Rose Fulbright (V66) Deferred to Jan. 19, 2021 8/6
Irell & Manella (V67)
Nixon Peabody (V68) Deferred to Feb. 2021; no definitive start date given. Additional $10K salary advance available in Sept. 5/7
Crowell & Moring (V69) Deferred to mid Jan. 2021. No assistance beyond normal $10k salary advance and extra $2,500 advance to help with private insurance costs. Will not extend access to benefits. 7/20
Venable (V70) Start date pushed to "early 2021." Deferral salary advance of up to $10,000 will be available in September. 5/7
Foley & Lardner (V71) Start delayed until Feb. 1, 2021. Offering additional $10K advance in October. Offering $10k summer salary advance. 6/1
Squire Patton Boggs (V72) Jan. 2021 start per ATL article. 7/6
Fish & Richardson (V73) Firm-wide start date delayed to Jan. 19, 2021, but some offices may start earlier if possible. Offering $10k deferral stipend to be paid in October. $15k salary advances paid out in May. 7/15
Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton (V74) January 2021 start. Offering $10k advance. No health insurance until start. 8/10
Steptoe & Johnson (V75)
McGuireWoods (V76) Start date moved to November 2. Salary advances available. 5/26
Arent Fox (V77)
Fenwick & West (V78) Oct. 19 start, subject to change if bar exam date changes. $7500 salary advance and access to healthcare benefits starting Sept. 21. 7/26
Locke Lord (V79) Mid-October start. 8/15
Schulte Roth & Zabel (V80) Jan. 19, 2021 start. Offering $10k deferral stipend and $2,500 reimbursement for medical insurance. Will give 30-day notice before anyone is expected to move to office location. Offering 3 weeks paid time off for those taking Feb. bar exam. $10k salary advance to be paid by the end of June. 8/18
Katten (V81) Feb. 1, 2021 start date with possibility for some associates to be asked to start earlier based on firm needs. Providing additional $20k stipend paid out in two installments. $10k summer stipends are being processed. 7/4
Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner (V82) Deferred start date to January, 2021 with a $10k stipend paid in the fall. 5/22
Seyfarth Shaw (V83) Jan. 2021 start. No financial assistance to first years as of Sept. 10% cut to associate salaries. 9/13
Pepper Hamilton (V84) Merged with Troutman Sanders so package & start is identical. Jan. 2021 deferral, health insurance + $4k/month stipend Oct.-Dec & will pay monthly stipend through Feb. bar if necessary. Also $5k advance. Updated offer letters issued, salary remains the same. 8/18
Fox Rothschild (V85) Jan. 2021 start 4/20
Hughes, Hubbard, & Reed (V86) Jan. 4, 2021 start. Offering $15k advance and looking into starting health benefits in the fall. 8/7
Duane Morris (V87) Jan. 2021 start. Additional $7500 deferral stipend. Paid out $7500 summer stipend. 7/13
Haynes and Boone (V88) Paid out standard $10k salary advance. Firm is also paying out standard $3k stipend later in May. 5/19
Kramer Levin (V89) Delayed to Jan. 2021. Providing $8k interest free loan in Oct. Unclear if the $8k loan is in lieu of summer pay advance or in addition to it. Firm will pay for non-NY school incoming associates to take UBE in another state, and will cover all additional costs. 5/8
Davis Wright Tremaine (V90)
Troutman Sanders (V91) Jan. 2021 start. Offering health insurance starting Oct. and $4k/month stipend through Oct. 15 - Dec. 31. If associates are unable to take the summefall bar exam, will continue paying $4k/month stipend until after Feb. bar. Also can take a $5k salary advance. Summer salary advances have been mailed. Updated offer letters issued, salary remains the same. 8/18
Blank Rome (V92) Delayed to Jan. 2021. Some associates may begin earlier depending on office/group needs. Offering health insurance beginning Oct. and $10k advance. 7/29
Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton (V93) Jan. 19, 2021 start. Extra $12k stipend. 6/2
Ballard Spahr (V94) Jan. 2021 start per ATL. 7/16
Faegre Drinker (V95) Deferred until "no earlier than January 4, 2021." Additional $10k interest-free loan for Fall. Offering $10k interest-free loan upon graduation. 6/13
Mintz Levin (V96) Start deferred to Jan. 2021. Offering $7500 stipend and $7500 salary advance. There will be a 10% pay cut and no bonus. 7/16
Kellogg, Hansen (V97)
Foley Hoag (V98) Source heard from a friend that start date was pushed back to Jan. (at least for Boston). 5/21
Littler Mendelson (V99) Oct. 5, 2020 start. UPDATE: Phone call for CA office saying start date pushed to January 4, 2021. 5/7
Cozen O'Connor (V100) Jan. 2021 start. 5/7

Other Firms

Firm Start Date Delay & Deferral Stipend/Advance Info Other Updates Last Updated
Fisher & Phillips At least for CA offices: Oct. 19 start and offering salary advance. 9/11
Arnall Golden Gregory Jan. 2021 start. 9/11
Patterson Belknap Start deferred from October to Nov. 2. Offering $10k advance. No healthcare benefits until start. 8/4
Wollmuth Maher & Deutsche Source heard third hand that firm doesn't anticipate revoking offers and is taking time to organize possible remote start. 7/21
Keker, Van Nest & Peters No change to fall start. Will start remotely if needed. 7/15
Moore & Van Allen Can choose between Sept. 14, 21, or 28 start. 7/15
Bass, Berry & Sims Deferred to Jan., 2021. Offering $20k stipend AND $15k interest-free loan. 7/13
Ice Miller Jan. 2021 start. $4k/month stipend for Sept.-Dec. 7/2
Richards, Layton & Finger Start date moved to Sept. 21 to accommodate Sept. DE bar exam Regular $10k bar stipend paid in May & $5k stipend to be paid in August 6/27
Day Pitney Start date moved to Jan. 4, 2021. No info on any fall stipend/advance. 6/23
Shook, Hardy & Bacon Jan. 19, 2021 start. Offering additional $10k stipend. Directed associates to contact benefits team to discuss healthcare. Summer stipend distributed on time. 6/20
Morris, Manning & Martin Jan. 4 2021 start. $5k summer salary advance offered. 6/19
Bracewell Jan 2021 start. $10k advance available in Sept. 6/26
Husch Blackwell Jan. 11, 2021 start. Additional $3k stipend & option to receive one month's salary advance. 5/29
Schiff Hardin Jan. 2021 start. Extra $10k fall stipend. 5/10
Buchanan, Ingersoll & Rooney Jan 2021 start. No mention of financial assistance. 5/4
Finnegan Henderson Farabow Garrett and Dunner Jan. 4th 2021 start. Increase in usual stipend to $15k paid out in June. Stated no benefits before start date because to do so would be contrary to the law. 7/13
Thompson & Knight Jan. 2021 start. Offering total of $20k in mix of stipends/advances. $10k stipend and optional $10k salary advance. 5/2
Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck No change for Sept. 8 start date. No change to salaries. 4/24
Hunton Andrews Kurth Sept. 14 start. For anyone taking the bar past that date, firm is offering staggered start dates throughout Oct. 6/25
Kelley Drye Deferred to unannounced date. Salary reduction of 10% for anyone making over $100K but they hope to restore salaries to regular levels when possible. 4/14
Fagen Friedman & Fulfrost Delayed to Jan. 2021 4/8
Dickinson Wright Deferred to Jan. 4, 2021. 4/9

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2020.04.03 21:55 Hstrat Tracking Summer Program Changes

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V100 Firms

Firm Name Status Pay/Offer Information Current as of:
Cravath (V1) 5/5: New Dates 6/15-7/24, start virtual, hope for in-person but seems unlikely. 5/22: fully virtual, casual to business casual dress. WFH thech shipped to summers 10 Weeks Pay. Guaranteed offers 4/15; Advances paid 4/3 5/22
Wachtell (V2) 4/13 email: Start on time, virtual. 4/30: Sending laptops and phones for virtual start on 5/11. 5/4: WFH equipment delivered Full Pay (since it's full duration). Sent $10k advances in March 5/4
Skadden (V3) 4/8: Program will continue, maybe virtual. 4/22: Delayed to 6/22 (8 weeks), start virtual and go in-person if possible. 5/14: NYC hopes for last 4 weeks in-person. Full Pay; advance to be paid in mid-May. 5/14: Will extend offers at the normal rate (100%). 5/28
S&C (V4) 4/30 phone call: Cancelled; can help set you up with pro bono org; will have optional networking events with practice groups & mentors. Extended Offers on 4/30; $19,230 stipend; can get $10k as an advance against next year's salary. 5/5: Offers received; open til 10/1 for 2Ls, 21 days after OCI for 1Ls. 5/8: money received 5/8
Latham (V5) 5/4: 6/1-7/24 (8 weeks); will start virtual, hope for optional in-person later Full Pay guaranteed on 4/10, reiterated on 4/20 5/4
Kirkland (V6) 5/4: Delayed to 6/15 (2 weeks), all virtual. 5/5: Logistical email. 5/7: Hiring partners at some offices setting up individual calls. 5/11: offer letters emailed; practice group assignments coming later Full Pay, Offers guaranteed & extended on 5/4 5/11
Davis Polk (V7) 4/9: Delayed. 5/5: will start on 6/29 (4-6 weeks); plan for all virtual but hoping for in-person events at the end. 5/8: logistical details, promise of pro bono work Full Pay and Offers guaranteed on 4/9, reiterated on 5/5. Advances paid. 5/8
Simpson Thacher (V8) 5/7: Will be 7/13-8/14 (5 weeks), fully virtual Full Pay (8 weeks' pay plus $7,500 pro bono stipend) on 5/7; anticipates "providing full-time offers in the normal course" 5/7
Gibson Dunn (V9) 4/11: Delayed to 6/15. Beginning likely virtual, NYC and maybe others all virtual. 4/28: 6 week program; virtual/in-person will vary by office. 5/13: Dallas will have optional in-person start Full Pay. Payment in excess of weeks actually worked will be made as a bonus payment on your first day. Must be returned if you do not complete the SA program 5/20
Paul, Weiss (V10) 4/16: Delayed to late June or early July. 4-6 weeks. 5/20: Starts 6/22 (6 weeks) Full Pay guaranteed on 5/1. "Expect to extend" offers to everyone. Advances received on 4/27 5/20
Weil Gotshal (V11) 5/6: Delayed until at least 6/15. Most likely a virtual program. NYC & Dallas will be fully virtual, practice group decision deferred to '21 Full Pay, Offers guaranteed on 5/6. Advances paid 5/13
Sidley Austin (V12) Late March: Firm-wide delayed until at least 6/1. 4/14 CHI: check-in email. Week of 5/4: new dates 7/6-7/31; everywhere but TX will be fully virtual. 5/27: HOU fully virtual as well Full Pay; bi-weekly paychecks starting on 5/22bla 5/28
Quinn Emanuel (V13) 5/7 NYC: Asked for shoe/hoody size, no other info. 5/15: Will run 6/15-8/15; Fully virtual program Full Pay 5/15
Cleary (V14) 4/23 Firm-wide: Delayed to 7/6. 4-6 week program, virtual but hopefully optional in-person programming later. 5/26: Will run from 7/6-8/7. No outside work/volunteering after 7/6 Full Pay, Offers guaranteed on 4/23. 4/7: Continues to offer advances. 4/21: Advances paid. 5/27
Covington (V15) 8 weeks remote work; considering in-person events in July. 4/26: email asking where to mail computers, explained pay schedule. 5/13: Program will be fully virtual Full Pay, will provide housing if in-person happens. 4/26: Offered an advance. 5/13: advances paid. 5/13
Jones Day (V16) 4/8: Program begins virtual on 5/18. Cancel housing plans. 4/17: NYC will be 10 weeks. 4/23: All offices will be a ten week program, start virtual, offices decide when/if to go in-person Full Pay (since full duration) guaranteed on 4/23. 5/13: plan to extend offers to all "qualifying participants" in their SA program. 5/9: Advances still available 5/13
White & Case (V17) 7 weeks program (6/22 - 8/7). First two weeks virtual, next 5 in-person but could move virtual. Have been in touch with logistics throughout. 5/20: Program will be fully virtual Pay pro-rated. 4/17 webex: expect to keep 100% offer rates. 4/23: Advances paid. 5/20
Debevoise (V18) 5/13: Starts 7/6 (4 weeks), fully virtual. Full Pay guaranteed; $3,000 advances paid 5/13
Williams & Connolly (V19) 3/25 email: preparing in case changes are needed. 4/24: Delayed to 6/1 (11 weeks). Start virtual, hope for in-person 11 Weeks Pay; W&C waits to make offers til post-clerkship, but "you have nothing to worry about" 4/24
Ropes Gray (V20) 5/1 email: Delayed to 7/6-8/7 (5 weeks). All virtual; Will help connect you to pro bono orgs for other weeks. 5/9: sending laptops. No pro bono work from 6/1 to start of program. 5/21: Can do pro bono if get approved first Full Pay guaranteed on 5/1. 1Ls got a second email strongly implying they'll get offers. 5/9: Advances still available 5/21
Paul Hastings (V21) 4/7 email: Start date delayed. Considering virtual program. 4/22: new dates 7/6-8/14; Start virtual but hope for in-person. 5/8: logistics email Intends to extend offers to everyone at the end of the summer. Still deciding what to do re: pay 5/8
WilmerHale (V22) 5/13: Program runs 7/6-7/31 (4 weeks), fully virtual. 5/15: Some offices getting check-in calls from hiring partner. 5/28: No outside pro bono during program dates Full Pay guaranteed on 5/13; offers to be extended at "customary" rate; 2 weeks' pay advance to be paid 6/12 5/28
MoFo (V23) 5/8: 6/16-7/24 (6 weeks); fully virtual; onboarding email next week 5/8: Pro-rated pay. 4/13: Guaranteed Offers 5/8
Boies Schiller (V24) 4/29: Committed to SA, maybe virtual. Starting on time; each office deciding virtual independently. 5/6: NYC sent laptops Full Pay guaranteed on 4/5. 5/6
Milbank (V25) Delayed to 6/8, still be ten weeks; Start virtual, hope in-person later. Multiple Onboarding emails sent since. 5/5: recommit to 10 week program Full Pay (since full duration) guaranteed on 5/5 5/5
O'Melveny (V26) 5/8: Delayed to 7/6 (6 weeks), fully virtual 5/8: Guaranteed Offers; Pay pro-rated; $10k advance against next year's salary available 4/21
Hogan Lovells (V27) 4/15: Delayed to 7/6, hoping in-person; shortened to 4 weeks. 5/16: Begins 6/8 for some; fully virtual; about 20 hours a week 4/15: Guaranteed Offers, Paid for 8 weeks 5/16
Cooley (V28) 4/21: Delayed to 6/22 (6 weeks), first two weeks virtual, rest is TBD. 5/6: Invitation to virtual event. 5/21: fully virtual 4/1: Pay pro-rated; "As in every year," offers will be made based on "individual performance". 4/21: $5k advances to be paid. Week of 5/1: advances paid. 5/29: Offering a $150 "health/wellness" credit 5/29
Proskauer (V29) 5/8: New dates 7/6-8/7 (5 weeks); Fully virtual; possible 1 week in-person "reunion" in the future Offers Guaranteed on 5/8; $25k compensation 5/7
Akin Gump (V30) Email to some offices 4/17: Probably delayed to end of June; no housing arrangements. 5/8: 5 week virtual program Full Pay guaranteed on 5/8; Expect to keep 100% offer rate 5/8
Arnold & Porter (V31) Delayed to 6/8; five weeks, virtual, option to join in-person later if possible. emails through April regarding logistics Plan to keep 100% offer rate. Firm will pro-rate, but does not plan to make a formal announcement. 5/20
Baker McKenzie (V32) 4/21: Delayed to 6/29 (5 weeks); all virtual but with "connection days" in-person if possible. 4/21: Pay pro-rated; Offers will be made through "the standard process." Advances have been paid, but are also still available 4/22
DLA Piper (V33) 4/3: Delayed to 6/29 firm-wide; 5-week in-person program. 5/13: fully virtual 5/13: "intend to give offers" to all summers. 5/14
Orrick (V34) Firm-wide 4/8 email: Delayed to 6/15 (5 weeks), virtual but with in-person later possible. No news since Offers Guaranteed on 4/8; pay pro-rated, lump sum payment 6/30. 5/27: Sending a gift card to pay for home office/meals 5/27
Mayer Brown (V35) 3/25 call: ambiguous. 4/23 Call: Delayed to 7/6 (5 weeks), all virtual. Final offices called by 5/3 Offers Extended week of 4/23; Pay pro-rated; advances to be paid in May. 5/4
Morgan Lewis (V36) 3/23 ambiguous email. 4/20: Fully virtual (6/1-7/10), mailing laptops Full Pay guaranteed 4/30
Goodwin (V37) 4/8: Delayed to 7/6 (5 weeks). 4/29: Hiring Partner email to check in. 4/8: pro-rated. 4/22: Expect the offer rate to be close to past years (100%); advances offered 4/29
Wilson Sonsini (V38) 5/1: 6 week all-virtual program starting 6/15; can opt to work with a pro bono org instead Offers Guaranteed; pay-pro-rated; Relocation stipends paid. Some offer received 5/11 5/11
King & Spalding (V39) 3/26: checking in 4/15: Delayed to at least 6/22. Promised "details soon." 5/18: two week virtual summer program in July. 5/20: No pro bono beginning 6/1, RA is fine. 5/22: post-grad start date TBD based on "needs of the firm" Full Pay; Guaranteed Offers. 5/22: Offers received 5/22
KL Gates (V40) 4/15: Delayed at least to June. 5/11: Delayed to 7/6 (3 weeks). More info in coming weeks 5/11
Clifford Chance (V41) 4/30: 6/1-6/26 will be the "core program"; supplementary virtual programs and potentially client work through 8/7. 5/5: zoom call w/ incoming 1st year attys Full Pay guaranteed on 4/30 5/5
Munger Tolles (V42) 4/17: Delayed to mid-June (6 weeks). 5/7: Will run 6/15-7/24; Sending laptops, phones, etc. Full Pay guaranteed on 4/17. 5/23: Advances paid; firm will pay for food and food delivery for lunches with associates during the summer 5/23
Winston & Strawn (V43) 5/11: Starts 7/6; 3 week virtual program plus 1 week pro bono program. Employee as of 6/1 Full Pay, Offers Guaranteed. 5/27si
Shearman & Sterling (V44) 4/20: Delayed to at least 6/22; virtual/in-person is TBD; Full Pay, Offers Guaranteed on 4/20 4/20
Baker Botts (V45) 4/6 firm-wide email: Delayed to 6/15, all virtual. 5/11: two week virtual program starting 6/15 Offers Guaranteed on 4/6. 5/11: up to a $10k stipend, based on initial length of commitment. 5/11
Linklaters (V46) 5/13: Core program will run 6/15-7/24 (6 weeks), fully virtual. Additional part time pro bono work available afterwards Offers Guaranteed on 5/13; Pay pro-rated, but can earn Full Pay through pro bono work after program ends 5/13
Allen & Overy (V47) 4/16: Will not start in person on 5/18. 4/24: Delayed to mid-June. Will be entirely virtual. 5/12: Will run 6/22-7/31 (6 weeks), fully virtual Full Pay guaranteed on 5/12; Advances available 5/12
Fried Frank (V48) 4/8: Delayed to 6/15. 4/23: 6/29-7/31 (5 weeks); Fully virtual; Extended counseling services. 4/24: Webex Q&A next week; sending laptops on 6/22; provided access to wellness resources/apps. 4/28 webex: Explained logistics. Full Pay guaranteed on 4/23; "expect to extend offers" to everyone. 4/15: Advances paid 5/20
Perkins Coie (V49) 4/9 firm-wide email: Delayed to mid-June. Details promised in next two weeks. 4/29 email to some offices: set up virtual meet & greet. 5/11: Starts 6/22 (6 weeks), fully virtual No official word on pay, but internally they've listed "shortened summer program" as a cost-saving measure, implying reduced pay 5/13
Dechert (V50) 4/27: Cancelled. Promised "summer meetings" and access to "extensive library of learning opportunities" Offers Guaranteed; 6 weeks of pay 4/27
Willkie (V51) 4/29: Delayed, possibly to July. 5/14: Will run 6/22-7/31; Fully virtual but with opportunities for in-person events if possible. 5/20: providing a tech stipend Full Pay guaranteed on 4/29. 4/30: Advances paid. 5/14: Full Pay will be made over three installments starting 6/22 5/20
Cadwalader (V52) 4/24: Delayed to 6/22 (5 weeks). 5/4 email with WFH logistics Offers Guaranteed; Pay pro-rated and reduced to $2740/wk to match associate cuts 5/4
Susman Godfrey (V53) Calls week of 4/27: Committed to full four week summer program; Willing to be flexible on dates and length; Virtual/in-person TBD. Pay pro-rated if you choose not to do all four weeks 5/5
Alston & Bird (V54) 4/10 firm-wide email: Delayed to 6/22 (6 weeks). 5/22: First two weeks will be virtual Intend to keep 100% offer rate; pay pro-rated 5/28
Dentons (V55) 4/16: 4 weeks, 7-10 hours per week. No additional news as of 5/5 Offers Guaranteed on 4/16; $5k stipend 5/5
Greenberg Traurig (V56) 4/15: some offices cancelled; may offer work opportunities late in the summeschool year for additional pay. Other offices still deciding summer plans Offers Guaranteed; $10k advance against next year's salary for 2Ls, $5k for 1Ls. Money will be paid in July 4/17
McDermott Will & Emery (V57) Optional 2 week virtual program/boot camp in mid-July. Offers Guaranteed; $20k stipend 4/17
Freshfields (V58) 4/29: Delayed to 6/22 (6-8 weeks). In-person, if possible, will be optional Full Pay guaranteed 4/14. 4/29: "prepared to make offers to the whole class" 4/29
Cahill (V59) NYC SA program "suspended," may have some pro bono work over the summer. 5/9: logistics email Full Pay, Offers guaranteed 4/5
Jenner & Block (V60) 4/10: fully virtual. 4/27: Program start 6/8, providing laptops and phones. 5/15: 8 week program 5/15: Pay pro-rated. Offers anticipated for everyone "assuming active participation" 5/15
Reed Smith (V61) 4/15: Delayed to at least 6/29 (5 weeks). Probably virtual. Two week boot camp, then three week substantive Pay pro-rated; plans to keep 100% offer rate 5/21
Pillsbury (V62) Six weeks(6/29-8/7); Probably start virtual but hope to go in-cperson Pay pro-rated; will pay for travel and assist w/ housing if in-person happens 4/14
Vinson & Elkins (V63) 4/1: Delay to 6/15. 4/21: Will start virtual. 5/11: will go to 7/17; fully virtual Full Pay guaranteed on 5/11; "expect" to make offers to everyone; 1 week's salary advance to be paid May 30. Paid on 5/21 5/21
Holland & Knight (V64) Delayed to 6/22 (4 weeks), fully virtual Guaranteed Offers; Pay pro-rated 5/27
Baker & Hostetler (V65) 4/27: Delayed to late June/early July. 5/6: 7/6-7/31, fully virtual 5/8 Law.com: Pay pro-rated. 5/23: Pay pro-rated but not reduced to match associate reductions 5/23
Norton Rose Fulbright (V66) 4/4: NYC orientation cancelled. 4/21: program 6/22-7/24; all virtual Pay pro-rated; high offer rate expected "like the previous years" 5/27
Irell & Manella (V67) Late March: committed to SA, monitoring problem. 4/21: Will probably be partly virtual. Option for each SA to delay start date to 6/8, would still be 10 weeks. 4/27: Mailing computers. 5/27: Covering meal expenses for virtual happy hours, lunches, dinners 5/27
Nixon Peabody (V68) Late March firm-wide: Friendly but vague “check in” email. 4/30: Call scheduled for 5/1. 5/1: Cancelled. 5/1: $5k Stipend in early June; No guaranteed offers. “We do not know what our hiring needs will look like” 5/1
Crowell & Moring (V69) 4/8: Delayed to 6/22; no housing plans; more info by 5/30. 5/18: Will start 7/6 (4 weeks) Guaranteed Offers on 5/18; 5 weeks' pay.. 5/26: Offering $3500 advances; sent practice group survey; sending a package 5/27
Venable (V70) 4/8 email: won't start on time, won't be ten weeks. 5/7: Four week virtual boot camp beginning 6/15. $10k stipend; offering a $2500 advance against the stipend. 5/7
Foley & Lardner (V71) 4/10: Delayed to at least 6/15. 4/28: 6 week program, fully virtual Offer Guaranteed; pay pro-rated 4/28
Squire Patton Boggs (V72) Late-March ambiguous email, promised to update when they know more. 4/29: Cancelled Offers Guaranteed; $5k stipend 4/29
Fish & Richardson (V73) Delayed to 7/6 (5 weeks) Pay Pro-rated 4/16
Sheppard Mullin (V74) 4/14 firm-wide: Delayed to 7/6 (5 weeks). Still deciding virtual/in-person; no travel/housing plans Offers Guaranteed; pay pro-rated 4/14
Steptoe Johnson (V75) 3/29: Delayed in DC. 4/20: 4 week in-person program in July. 5/26: program will be virtual Pay pro-rated; SAs will be evaluated for offers the same as they were in past years 5/26
McGuireWoods (V76) Delayed to 6/29 (5 weeks). Will be in-personc Pay pro-rated; offered advances 5/21
Arent Fox (V77) Cancelled Offers Guaranteed, no pay 4/15
Fenwick (V78) Delayed to 6/15 (6 weeks), fully virtual Pay Pro-rated, plus a $2.5k stipend. "Consistent with past practice," offers will be considered at end of summer 5/5
Locke Lord (V79) HOU: Email promising program will take place, reassuring call from hiring partner, no details. DAL 5/6: Starts on 6/15 (6 weeks) Pay pro-rated 5/6
Schulte Roth & Zabel (V80) Initially delayed to 6/15. 4/30: Delayed to 6/22-7/24; either mostly or all virtual. 5/15: Offering a course jointly with NYU to their summers - three weeks long, prior to SA program Full Pay guaranteed 4/30. 4/17: Guaranteed Offers, $2500 COVID advance available. Advances paid on 5/6 5/15
Katten Muchin (V81) 4/17 email: Delayed to July, cut to five weeks. Fully virtual 5/21: Pay pro-rated. 4/17: Committed to usual offer rates "assuming a normal demand for legal services" 5/21
Bryan Cave (V82) 4/12: Delayed; anticipating in-person program. 5/8 phone call: 5 week program, fully virtual. Offers Guaranteed on 5/8. Pay pro-rated. on 4/15 5/8
Seyfarth Shaw (V83) Program cancelled. Offering all summers positions as 'senior fellows' for Fall 2021 Offers Guaranteed; $10K stipend, unconditional 4/18
Pepper Hamilton (V84) Cancelled on 4/9. 5/20: Some virtual programming/events Offers Guaranteed; Promised "financial assistance" if they accept the offer - $10k 5/20
Fox Rothschild (V85) Call on 4/7: Planning on moving forward with SA. 4/20: Fully virtual, Delayed to 6/1 (7 weeks) 4/20
Hughes Hubbard (V86) 4/6: Ambiguous email. 4/24: New dates 6/22-7/31, in-person but prepared for virtual Pay pro-rated 4/24
Duane Morris (V87) Delayed to June (4 weeks). 5/27: Will start 7/6 (4 weeks), mostly virtual with possible in-person events last week (firm will pay for travel). Partners will be calling with additional details 4/10: If they have to cancel their summer program, they will "make every effort" to prioritize former SAs for consideration for employment. 5/27
Haynes Boone (V88) 4/12: Delayed to 6/22 (6 weeks). 4/23: Virtual. 5/1 email about logistics Offers Guaranteed on 4/23. 4/12: Offered a $7,500 advance in response to COVID-19. 5/27: Pay pro-rated 5/28
Kramer Levin (V89) 5/2: Will be a 5 week program; Zoom firm welcome event on 5/18: Fully virtual, starts 7/6. 5/2: Offers Guaranteed on 5/2. 5/18: Pay pro-rated. If you have expenses/concerns about the change, they'll work with you 5/18
Davis Wright (V90) Bloomberg: 6 weeks, fully virtual. 5/14: Will start on 6/15. 4/29
Troutman Sanders (V91) Cancelled. Zoom calls scheduled to learn about practice areas Offers delivered. $10,000 interest-free loan, forgivable and taxable after 6 months of employment 5/21
Blank Rome (V92) Starts 7/6 (5 weeks), fully virtual, mailing laptops Offers Guaranteed 5/28
Kilpatrick Townsend (V93) 4/20: delayed to 6/22 (6 weeks). 5/13: Some offices will start in-person. 5/29: All offices start virtual, may go in-person later. WFH equipment sent 5/29
Ballard Spahr (V94) 4/6: Program may be virtual or delayed but not yet sure. 5/11: Starts 6/15 (6 weeks), fully virtual Offers Guaranteed on 4/6 5/11
Faegre Drinker (V95) Firm-wide email: Delayed to 7/6 (4 weeks). Still deciding on virtual/in-person. Confirmatory email 5/21 5/21
Mintz Levin (V96) 4/11 phone call: delayed to 6/15 (6 weeks) might be virtual Offers Guaranteed 4/14
Foley Hoag (V98) 4/6: Delayed start to 6/15 (6 weeks); may be delayed again. 4/22: Still trying for in-person, assessing feasibility of virtual. 5/5: will go fully virtual, more details later this week Offers Guaranteed IF SA is cancelled; would also get "meaningful" stipend. 4/22: Pay pro-rated and reduced 15% to match associates. 5/5
Littler (V99) 4/17: Delayed (6 weeks) 5/5: Pay pro-rated 5/5
Cozen O'Connor (V100) 5/7 phone call: 7/6-8/7, fully virtual but hoping for in-person later. 5/22: Hoping for in-person last week 5/7: Pay pro-rated to five weeks 5/22

Other Large Firms

AmLaw 100 firms that are not in the Vault ranking. Updated to AmLaw 2020 rankings
Firm Name Status Pay/Offer Information Current as of:
Dorsey & Whitney (98) Delayed to mid-June (8 weeks), part virtual, hoping for at least 4 weeks in office. 5/27: Begins 6/15 (7 weeks), fully virtual 8 weeks' pay Guaranteed on 5/27 5/29k
Fragomen (61) Cancelled 4/10
Hunton Andrews Kurth (57) 3/31 email: don't find housing. 4/20: Delayed to 7/6 (6 weeks), start virtual and hope to move in-person 5/27: Pay pro-rated 5/27
Husch Blackwell (100) Splitting summers into 2 sessions: 6/15-7/17 & 7/20-8/21 (5 weeks). Plan for in-person, prepared for virtual Pay pro-rated 4/18
Jackson Lewis (77) Cancelled No Pay 4/14
Lewis Brisbois (65) Cancelled No Pay, No guaranteed offers 4/17
Nelson Mullins (68) Program reduced from 10 to 5 weeks or from 6 to 4, depending; in-person but will reassess if need be. Pay pro-rated 4/17
Ogletree Deakins (72) Cancelled No Pay, No guarantee of offers 4/10
Polsinelli (67) 4/23: Cancelled firm-wide over two days. 4/3: Firm-wide phone calls; program will either be delayed+virtual or cancelled. Guaranteed Offers; No Pay 4/24

Other SA Tables

Due to size constraints, other data had to be moved to separate posts.
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2020.03.05 21:22 jaztinax The results from the season three soundtrack ranking!

The results from the season three soundtrack ranking!

Approximately 17 days ago, I asked you guys to rank the season three soundtrack of our favorite (or least favorite?) TV show, Glee. The results are finally in, and you might be surprised but also not?


  • There were a total of 51 participants, which is 11 more than last time! Yay!
  • All the results, ranked in most possible ways, can be found HERE.


Rank Song title Average score Controversy score
  1. Paradise By The Dashboard Light 9.680 1.477
  2. Rumor Has It/Someone Like You 9.640 1.191
  3. Smooth Criminal 9.580 1.012
  4. Cough Syrup 9.160 1.570
  5. SurvivoI Will Survive 8.600 1.485
  6. We Are Young 8.480 1.798
  7. The Edge of Glory 8.360 1.735
  8. It's All Coming Back To Me Now 8.208 1.935
  9. I Wanna Dance With Somebody 8.200 1.616
  10. I Will Always Love You 8.188 1.646
  11. Shake It Out 8.184 2.028
  12. Tongue Tied 8.098 2.184
  13. How Will I Know 8.080 2.009
  14. Hit Me With Your Best Shot/One Way or Another 7.940 1.671
  15. We Are The Champions 7.860 1.485
  16. ABC 7.820 2.164
  17. America 7.796 1.620
  18. Love Shack 7.796 1.859
  19. Man In The Mirror 7.750 1.744
  20. What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger) 7.720 1.852
  21. Bad 7.653 2.037
  22. Not The Boy Next Door 7.638 2.633
  23. Black Or White 7.600 1.841
  24. Human Nature 7.542 2.052
  25. Somebody That I Used to Know 7.510 1.959
  26. So Emotional 7.500 2.250
  27. Summer Nights 7.460 1.631
  28. You Can't Stop The Beat 7.449 1.569
  29. Candyman 7.440 2.215
  30. Roots Before Branches 7.438 2.192
  31. Disco Inferno 7.367 1.955
  32. Stereo Hearts 7.300 1.972
  33. You Get What You Give 7.286 2.151
  34. It's Not Unusual 7.240 1.791
  35. I Can't Go For That/You Make My Dreams 7.240 1.996
  36. Here's To Us 7.224 2.104
  37. All I Want For Christmas Is You 7.163 1.983
  38. Fly/I Believe I Can Fly 7.160 2.151
  39. Take My Breath Away 7.160 2.151
  40. We Found Love 7.146 2.042
  41. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 7.085 2.114
  42. Cell Block Tango 7.063 2.067
  43. Uptown Girl 7.000 2.347
  44. Fighter 7.000 2.350
  45. Flashdance... What A Feeling 6.980 2.203
  46. Never Can Say Goodbye 6.958 2.212
  47. I'm Still Standing 6.918 2.159
  48. Anything Goes/Anything You Can Do 6.917 2.112
  49. Constant Craving 6.857 2.354
  50. It's Not Right But It's Okay 6.854 2.193
  51. Without You 6.837 2.339
  52. Stayin' Alive 6.837 2.095
  53. If I Can't Have You 6.796 2.061
  54. A Boy Like That/I Have A Love 6.735 1.966
  55. Control 6.708 2.173
  56. Let It Snow 6.708 2.042
  57. My Love Is Your Love 6.702 2.042
  58. We Got The Beat 6.700 1.729
  59. The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face 6.694 2.064
  60. Boogie Shoes 6.688 2.252
  61. La Isla Bonita 6.646 2.454
  62. Love You Like A Love Song 6.633 2.325
  63. Spotlight 6.583 2.092
  64. Perfect 6.580 2.357
  65. Cherish/Cherish 6.551 2.122
  66. Glad You Came 6.542 2.432
  67. Because You Loved Me 6.531 2.390
  68. Hungry Like The Wolf/Rio 6.521 2.154
  69. Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) 6.520 2.206
  70. It's All Over 6.510 1.970
  71. Mean 6.510 2.113
  72. In My Life 6.510 1.804
  73. Saving All My Love For You 6.469 1.916
  74. Cry 6.469 2.122
  75. I Just Can't Stop Loving You 6.467 1.938
  76. Buenos Aires 6.457 2.562
  77. L-O-V-E 6.440 2.409
  78. How Deep Is Your Love 6.396 1.987
  79. Extraordinary Merry Christmas 6.348 2.203
  80. One Hand, One Heart 6.340 1.748
  81. You Should Be Dancing 6.292 2.501
  82. Glory Days 6.292 2.143
  83. My Favorite Things 6.289 2.085
  84. Night Fever 6.286 2.264
  85. Out Here On My Own 6.283 1.797
  86. I Have Nothing 6.283 2.474
  87. Starships 6.265 2.714
  88. Do They Know It's Christmas? 6.261 2.728
  89. I Kissed A Girl 6.260 2.554
  90. Fix You 6.240 2.143
  91. Something's Coming 6.229 2.136
  92. Girls Just Want To Have Fun 6.220 2.750
  93. Run The World (Girls) 6.180 2.362
  94. Scream 6.170 2.399
  95. Forever Young 6.170 1.773
  96. Big Girls Don't Cry 6.149 1.876
  97. What Makes You Beautiful 6.146 1.611
  98. I'm The Greatest Star 6.104 2.545
  99. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) 6.093 2.102
  100. Pinball Wizard 6.085 2.636
  101. Christmas Wrapping 6.064 2.240
  102. Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead 6.061 2.470
  103. I Was Here 6.024 2.225
  104. I Won't Give Up 6.000 2.021
  105. Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 5.957 1.706
  106. You and I/You and I 5.920 2.156
  107. Moves Like JaggeJumpin' Jack Flash 5.918 2.110
  108. River 5.915 2.254
  109. Let Me Love You 5.911 2.141
  110. Up Up Up 5.891 1.703
  111. More Than A Woman 5.857 2.525
  112. I'll Remember 5.822 1.886
  113. Red Solo Cup 5.796 2.590
  114. Do You Hear What I Hear 5.762 2.467
  115. Somewhere 5.750 1.781
  116. Don't Wanna Lose You 5.674 1.726
  117. Home 5.674 2.077
  118. Tonight 5.667 1.667
  119. Wedding Bell Blues 5.667 2.011
  120. Not The End 5.643 1.998
  121. I'm The Only One 5.638 1.983
  122. Cool 5.571 2.041
  123. Little Drummer Boy 5.405 2.108
  124. Take Care of Yourself 5.396 1.854
  125. Ben 5.383 2.261
  126. Bamboleo/Hero 5.348 2.079
  127. Blue Christmas 5.250 1.874
  128. Jolene 5.188 2.574
  129. School's Out 5.174 2.080
  130. Stand 5.156 2.296
  131. Christmas Eve With You 5.100 1.823
  132. Sexy And I Know It 5.061 2.561
  133. Bein' Green 4.938 2.771
  134. Dinosaur 4.918 2.999
  135. You're The Top 4.909 2.229
  136. The Music of the Night 4.810 2.098
  137. Waiting For A Girl Like You 4.739 1.891
  138. Hot for Teacher 4.404 2.626
  139. The Rain In Spain 4.041 2.590
  140. A Little Less Conversation 3.667 2.004
  141. La Cucaracha 2.977 2.314

Total average score Total average controversy score
6.568 2.095
If a song has a higher score than 6.568 - congrats, it's considered great (or simply just above average). If a song has a higher controversy score than 2.095, then people had really mixed feelings about it. Anything below can be considered as songs that people somewhat managed to agree on.


  • The average score was 0.243 higher than the last time, which means people definitely liked the season three soundtrack a lot better than the second and way more than the first.
    • The controversy score had lowered by 0.140 points and is so far at its lowest, meaning the voters agree on the scores more than ever!
  • The song with the most 11's was Paradise By The Dashboard Light with fifteen 11's. A record by a milestone! The last record was three 11's, which I Feel Pretty/Unpretty, River Deep, Mountain High and Don't Stop Believin' all received.
    • In second place for most 11's is Rumor Has It/Someone Like You with ten 11's, which is still miles more than three.
    • Other songs who received 11's were: I'm The Greatest Star, Something's Coming, Hit Me With Your Best Shot/One Way or Another, Red Solo Cup, ABC, We Are Young, Smooth Criminal, Cough Syrup, Fly/I Believe I Can Fly, Hungry Like The Wolf/Rio, How Will I Know, Not The Boy Next Door, Shake It Out, Love You Like A Love Song, Because You Loved Me, Tongue Tied and Roots Before Branches.
  • The song with most 0's was Dinosaur with four 0's. Justice for Brittany Pierce.
  • Only one song this time around were both very hated and very loved - I'm The Greatest Star received both one 11 and one 0.
  • Songs featuring Santana as lead once again hit the big times, with Rumor Has It, Smooth Criminal and SurvivoI Will Survive all being in top 5.
  • The Troubletones are also extremely popular with our voters - all of their songs made it into the top 30 (or top 29)!
  • CONTROVERSY ALERT! Once again, Brittany takes the crown for most controversial song, Dinosaur, with a 2.999 controversy score, which is incredibly high considering the overall controversy score is closer to 2 blank and is at its lowest it's ever been. As mentioned earlier, it was the song that received most 0's, but according to the results, the scores were pretty mixed and it even received a handful of 10's! I guess there are just some songs people can never agree on...


Ranked from highest to lowest average score.

Episode Average score Controversy score
Nationals 7.794 2.024
Hold on to Sixteen 7.373 2.074
On My Way 7.254 2.014
Dance with Somebody 7.231 2.076
Michael 7.160 1.985
Mash Off 7.029 1.985
The Purple Piano Project 6.883 1.934
Big Brother 6.768 2.065
The First Time 6.708 1.870
Yes/No 6.619 2.033
Saturday Night Glee-ver 6.565 2.205
Props 6.505 2.182
Heart 6.410 2.057
Goodbye 6.365 2.031
Prom-asaurus 6.246 2.182
Asian F 6.230 2.058
Choke 6.151 2.249
I Kissed A Girl 6.124 2.429
I Am Unicorn 6.028 2.154
Extraordinary Merry Christmas 6.019 2.150
Pot O' Gold 5.806 2.238
The Spanish Teacher 4.895 2.155


Includes solos only. Ranked from highest to lowest score.

Character name # of solos Average score
Blaine Anderson 7 7.155
Mercedes Jones 5 6.995
Quinn Fabray 1 6.958
Rachel Berry 9 6.723
Santana Lopez 2 6.715
Harmony 2 6.687
Tina Cohen-Chang 1 6.531
Unique Adams 3 6.346
Sebastian Smythe 3 6.233
Kurt Hummel 5 6.131
Finn Hudson 3 5.907
Artie Abrams 3 5.745
Brittany Pierce 3 5.720
Emma Pillsbury 1 5.656
Sam Evans 2 5.572
Mike Chang 1 5.571
Will Schuester 3 5.359
Rory Flanagan 4 5.315
Sheldon Beiste 1 5.188
David Martinez 1 5.061
Noah Puckerman 4 4.989


  • Songs that deserved at least one 11 and got none: Despite being number 5, SurvivoI Will Survive didn't get a single 11. Isn't that crazy?
    • I'm not actively encouraging people to score Blaine's solos higher, but for real, Wanna Be Startin' Something is a whole ass bop and deserved both a higher spot and an 11. But alas...
    • I Will Always Love You, although getting that #10 spot, was also deprived of an 11. I'm speechless.
    • Not related to this category, but I just wanted to add that Cough Syrup only got 2 11's?? Where are you Blaine stans at?? Truly disappointing results.
  • Songs that deserved better: Okay, listen... La Isla Bonita... what do you guys have against this bop. #61? What? Saving All My Love For You, aka one of the best duets Quinn has ever partaken in, if not the best? At #73???? Do you guys not hear how amazing her and Joe's voice go together?
    • Also, every. disco. song. deserved. better. Disco is an amazing genre of music and it's a reason why it's influencing some of the most popular songs at the moment. IT'S COMING BACK AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT.
    • I can't believe Scream almost didn't make top 100, I'm honestly... so... whatever.
    • Let Me Love You aka Artie's best solo didn't make top 100 and yeah, the guy's an asshole but HE CAN SANG.
  • Go take that rightful crown! The Troubletones were definitely superior this season and they deserved every single spot they got (except Candyman who could've been lower in favor of other songs tbh, but other than that, well deserved).
    • Obviously, the song with most 11's got the #1 spot, the iconic and legendary Paradise By The Dashboard Light. It's their Bohemian Rhapsody and yes, I said it!!!
  • WHY? Hit Me With Your Best Shot isn't... that great... especially not great enough for a #14 spot. But it's a good mash-up? But not the greatest song?
    • Here's To Us and Fly/I Believe I Can Fly belongs to their most disappointing competition set to date and it definitely was not worthy of a top 40 spot, lol
    • Constant Craving above It's Not Right But It's Okay? And Spotlight? Really?
  • Well, hello there. Quinn Fabray's solos above Rachel Berry's? Granted, she only had one and Rachel had nine, so it's unfair but still. That one solo getting her to the big leagues along with Blaine and Mercedes. Well done, girlie!


What do you guys think of the results? Any surprises? Anything that you saw coming? Comment below!
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2020.01.25 10:28 cbush38 Can flour go bad?

I am epically failing at the super simple. I used:
100g Pillsbury APF (best before date of April 2020) 60g water (about 100 degrees F) I didn't measure this time, but i know how hot my water comes out, and it was well under that. 2g active dry yeast (expiration date of oct 2020) 2g salt
Added salt to flour, added yeast to water with a pinch of sugar, then combined all ingredients.
Kneaded for 8 mins and let rest for 5. Didn't pass window pane test ando it didn't pass finger print test. Dough looked like fresh playdough very dense. Decided to keep kneading.
After maybe 20 mins of kneading, still no passing the tests. Said screw it and let it rise.
3 hours later, no rise. Still playdough. Threw it on a preheated pizza stone at 400 for 15 mins. It tasted like a thick cracker, not crunchy though.
edit* added guestimate temp of water
Edit* forgot to mention I added water and yeast separate from flour and salt.
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2020.01.07 14:50 rusticgorilla Lost in the Sauce: Dec 29 - Jan 4

Welcome to Lost in the Sauce, keeping you caught up on political and legal news that often gets buried in distractions and theater. (the previous edition can be found here if you are super behind)
Two important things:
FIRST, the headings will guide you through this piece. The Main Course covers the “big” stories and The Sides covers the “smaller” stories.
SECOND, I have not had time lately to do a companion audio TLDR for Lost in the Sauce. I’m very sorry, these take so long to write and compile that suddenly it’s time to post it and I haven’t had a chance to record and edit audio.
Let’s dig in!

*Main Course*

Critical details in Ukraine docs

Last week, Just Security published new details of Trump administration communications regarding the freeze on aid to Ukraine. The emails were previously only available in redacted form as part of a FOIA release to the Center for Public Integrity. The new information sheds light on the role Trump and his aides played in the freeze and highlighted the administration’s ongoing cover-up.

The cover-up

A key person in the emails is acting Pentagon comptroller Elaine McCusker, who expressed concern almost immediately after the freeze was formalized on July 25 (91 minutes after Trump’s call with Zelensky). In August, McCusker warned senior OMB officials that time was running out to send the aid. Both of these emails from McCusker were redacted.
As the month wore on, the emails show officials bending over backwards to make every conceivable accommodation to keep the process moving without actually being able to obligate the funding. The idea was that as soon as the funds were given the green light, there would be zero delay, and presumably, impoundments could be avoided.
At the end of August, “McCusker’s frustration is palpable,” as associate director of national security programs at OMB Michael Duffey kept extended the hold with little explanation and OMB lawyers “continue[d] to consistently mischaracterize the process,” in McCusker’s own words. By Aug. 27, the Senate Armed Services Committee and House Appropriators began asking the Pentagon about the aid. All of McCusker’s emails during this time were redacted.
The cover-up doesn’t end at FOIA redactions. On Dec. 11, OMB general counsel Mark Paoletta wrote a letter to the Government Accountability Office (GAO) stating that the Defense Department had not warned them that there was a risk that the aid money could not be spent if the freeze extended for too long. In fact, the unredacted communications reveal three concrete examples of the Defense Department pointing out that risk. One of these examples was an entire draft letter from the Deputy Defense Secretary to the OMB warning that "we have repeatedly advised OMB officials that pauses beyond Aug. 19, 2019 jeopardize the Department’s ability to obligate USAI funding prudently and fully.”
Why was this entire letter blacked out by the DOJ? Why did Paoletta lie in an official communication to the GAO, a congressional investigative office? Why redact practically all of McCusker’s concerns?
  • Reminder: In last week’s edition of Lost in the Sauce, I wrote about a report by The New York Times that detailed the intense disagreement among top administration officials over Trump’s decision to withhold aid to Ukraine. Pentagon officials were generally against the hold, including Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, while Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, Russell T. Vought, the acting head of the Office of Management and Budget, Robert Blair, the senior adviser to Mulvaney, and Mark Paoletta were Trump’s accomplices.
  • Latest cover-up action: Despite a court order in response to a FOIA lawsuit, the Trump administration is refusing (non-paywalled) to produce 20 emails between Robert Blair and Michael Duffey discussing the aid freeze. The New York Times plans to “challenge the blanket withholding of the documents and would ask the judge overseeing the lawsuit, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, to approve an expedited schedule.”

Trump’s role

The unredacted documents reviewed by Just Security show that Trump was the sole decision-maker: “What is clear is that it all came down to the president and what he wanted; no one else appears to have supported his position.” This is made clear as early as the day after the hold is formalized, in a readout of a National Security Council meeting on July 26 that states the “OMB noted that the President’s direction via the Chief of Staff in early July was to suspend security assistance to Ukraine…”
Perhaps the most damning evidence, though, was in an email Duffey sent to McCusker following an Aug. 30 meeting between Trump, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Duffey stated there was a “Clear direction from POTUS to hold” and prepared paperwork to again extend the hold.
Finally, McCusker asked Duffey why the hold was lifted (on Sept. 11). He responded, “Not exactly clear but president made the decision to go. Will fill you in when I get details.” We now know what happened: Trump got caught. Just two days earlier, the House announced it was opening an investigation into whether Trump was illegally pressuring Ukraine.


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer:
"The newly-revealed unredacted emails are a devastating blow to Sen. McConnell’s push to have a trial without the documents and witnesses we’ve requested. These emails further expose the serious concerns raised by Trump administration officials about the propriety and legality of the president’s decision to cut off aid to Ukraine to benefit himself.”
"Importantly, that Mr. Duffey said there was 'clear direction from POTUS to continue to hold' only further implicates President Trump and underscores the need for the Senate to subpoena the witnesses and documents we’ve requested at the onset of a trial," Schumer continued. "The American people deserve a fair trial that gets to the truth, not a rigged process that enables a cover-up."
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff:
"As part of our impeachment inquiry, the House subpoenaed these very documents. From their deeply incriminating character, we can now see why they were concealed: They directly corroborate witnesses who testified that military aid to Ukraine was withheld at the direction of the President and that the W.H. was informed doing so may violate the law… The disclosure of these incriminating documents reinforces the need for all of these materials to be produced, and that a fair trial in the Senate cannot take place without them. If they are not produced, the Senate and the American people must ask, what else is the President hiding?” (CNN)

Ukraine’s success

Despite all the abuse from the White House, and the fact that he took office as an utter political neophyte in one of Europe’s most dysfunctional nations, Zelensky’s government so far has been an extraordinary — and, under the circumstances, almost miraculous — success.
...For decades, successive U.S. administrations have tried to coax this kind of performance from Ukrainian presidents, mostly without much success. Yet now that Zelensky is doing virtually everything the State Department once dreamed of, there is a U.S. vacuum in Kyiv.
Meanwhile, Zelensky, who still wants the legitimization of a White House visit, has yet to be given a date. It’s hard not to conclude that the Trump administration isn’t happy that Ukraine finally has a competent president. (The Washington Post)

Senate trial update

Not much has changed since Congress went on break - the Republican and Democratic leaders are still deadlocked over how a Senate impeachment trial will proceed. On Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that he’s “content to continue the ordinary business of the Senate while House Democrats continue to flounder,” referring to House Speaker Pelosi’s decision not to nominate House managers and send articles of impeachment to the Senate. Schumer continues to back her plan, saying:
”There has never, never in the history of the country been an impeachment trial of the president in which the Senate was denied the ability to hear from witnesses… Yet, the Republican leader seems intent on violating that precedent.”
A Democratic aide told Axios that no decision has been made about when the articles could be sent to the Senate.
  • Further reading: How long can Pelsoi hold the articles of impeachment? The Daily Beast published an op-ed on the matter. “Pushed for a time limit, Ornstein told The Daily Beast that he thinks Pelosi can extend through February, ‘keeping all options open,’ he said.”
  • The opposing view: (1) “Democrats are the ones who stand to suffer by delaying the Senate impeachment trial.” The Washington Post. 1/2/2020. (2) Perhaps less credible, “Pelosi impeachment delay game ‘hurting Democrats,’ says Harvard’s Alan Dershowitz.” Boston Herald. 12/24/2019.

Change in rules?

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham said he will push to change the Senate rules regarding impeachment so the trial can begin without receiving the managers/articles from the House. It’s unclear whether McConnell would be open to this approach, however, as the only person who seems to want a trial is Trump and Trump’s associates. Additionally, it would be very hard to change the rules before the trial starts:
It would take 60 votes to pass a resolution on impeachment outside a trial and 67 votes to change the impeachment rules. That threshold would require Democratic support, since McConnell has only 53 Republicans…
I want to note that the Associated Press appears to report that changing the rules would require 51 votes, but that is only true after the trial has begun.


On Monday, former National Security Adviser John Bolton released the following statement:
Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.
According to The New York Times: “former White House officials and people close to Mr. Bolton have indicated that his testimony would likely be damning to Mr. Trump and put additional pressure on moderate Republicans to consider convicting him.”
Maine Senator Susan Collins said in an interview with local media that she is “open to witnesses” during the Senate trial, breaking with McConnell. Collins added that she has advocated that the Senate use the Clinton impeachment trial as a framework for Trump’s trial:
”What happened back then is Sen. Trent Lott on the Republican side, Sen. Tom Daschle on the Democratic side, negotiated the terms to begin the trial. And those terms were adopted unanimously by the Senate, 100-0. I can't imagine anything like that happening today, regrettably. They decided that we would start with the opening arguments from both sides. And then we proceeded to a period where senators questioned the two sides through the chief justice... And those questions, of which there were more than 100, elicited a lot of information that was very useful. So I hope we do that approach this time as well.”
Then we move to what I call the third stage. At that point, we debated whether or not we wanted to hear from witnesses and get additional documents. And there was a roll call vote, with Republicans wanting witnesses at that point. And Democrats, with few exceptions, not wanting witnesses, so we have a reverse of the current situation. And we decided to call just three witnesses and to have them deposed, rather than testifying live.
Read more on how Clinton’s Senate impeachment trial worked.
Read about the role Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts could play in a Senate trial.


At Trump’s New Year’s Eve party, Rudy Giuliani told reporters that he’s not only willing to testify at Trump’s trial - he wants to “try the case.”
“I would testify, I would, um, do demonstrations. I’d give lectures, I’d give summations. Or, I’d do what I do best, I’d try the case. I’d love to try the case. Well I don’t know if anybody would have the courage to give me the case, but, uh, if you give me the case, I will prosecute it as a racketeering case, which I kind of invented anyway.”
So the private attorney of the defendant charged with abuse of power and obstructing congress wants to “prosecute” a RICO case… against his own client? Though that’s what Giuliani literally said, it seems what he intended to say was that he’d argue at Trump’s trial that Joe Biden and Hunter are the ones actually on trial.

Kupperman’s lawsuit

Last Monday, D.C. District Court Judge Richard Leon dismissed (document) former Deputy National Security Adviser Charles Kupperman’s lawsuit challenging a subpoena from House impeachment investigators. Kupperman’s lawsuit sought to determine whether he had to obey the House subpoena or the president’s order not to comply with the subpoena. Judge Leon dismissed the case because the House Intelligence Committee withdrew the subpoena last month; a House Intelligence Committee official stated that they would not allow Kupperman to delay impeachment through long court cases.
With this case dismissed, the relevant precedent is Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson’s ruling in the McGahn case that Executive branch employees do not have “absolute immunity.” This is especially applicable to former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who said he was waiting on the outcome of Kupperman’s case to determine if he would testify in impeachment proceedings. Legal experts immediately called for his compliance:
Neal Katyal: "I think the bottom line is that John Bolton now has no rock to hide behind anymore, and that he really should testify."
Former prosecutor Mimi Rocah: “Bolton has no excuse anymore. The standing case law says testify. Wanting to sell a book says testify. Doing the right thing for the good of your country says testify.” Source
Former prosecutor Joyce White Vance: “Bolton doesn’t have any legally cognizable privilege to assert and should testify. We can confirm this with common sense: Someone close to the president who has said he has information and who we now know was involved in counseling the president against the course of conduct he took in Ukraine must certainly testify if we’re going to learn the truth.” Source
Edit: See the "Bolton" section above for more on whether Bolton will testify.

Mueller memos

Buzzfeed News and CNN obtained a third batch of FBI memos from Mueller’s investigation, released as part of a FOIA lawsuit. The following are some highlights of the new 365-page trove:
  • The translator at the 2016 Trump Tower meeting, Ike Kaveladze, told Mueller’s team that the Russians spoke at length about the Magnitsky Act, though Trump’s representatives were promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton. Kaveladze reported that Trump Jr. was annoyed by the focus on sanctions policy and half-way through the meeting interrupted to ask: "Is there anything you have on HILLARY?"
  • Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort used Fox News host Sean Hannity as a “back channel” to Trump during the period he was under investigation in 2017. The memos state: “Manafort knew Hannity was speaking to Trump because Hannity would tell Manafort to hang in there, that he had been talking to Trump, that Trump had his back, and things like that...Manafort understood his conversations with Hannity to be a message from Trump.”
  • Trump’s former personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that he and Trump attorney Jay Sekulow considered having Trump issue “pre-pardons,” or “pardons to everyone so that no one had to comply with the investigations.” However, Cohen said the duo then learned that pre-pardons would have the opposite effect: individuals would have to cooperate with all investigations and could not take the Fifth Amendment.
  • An unknown witness spoke to Mueller’s team on April 12 and 13 of 2018; the entire 31 pages documenting the interview is redacted. This witness is the only name withheld entirely in the 365-page release. CNN speculates that this individual could possibly be Jared Kushner.
  • Then-White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told then-Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland that, before she was officially fired, Trump wanted her to write a letter stating that “the President never directed Flynn to call the Russians about sanctions." McFarland relayed this request to White House lawyer John Eisenberg, who advised her not to comply because the concurrent offer of an ambassadorship would look “like a quid pro quo situation.”

McGahn and Grand Jury arguments

Two sets of three-judge panels in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments (audio) in two separation-of-powers cases Friday: a lawsuit over former White House Counsel Don McGahn’s subpoenaed testimony and a lawsuit to reveal evidence collected by Mueller’s grand jury.
In the McGahn case, two judges - Rogers and Griffith - appeared skeptical of the Justice Department’s argument that advisers like McGahn are “absolutely immune from compelled congressional testimony.” The DOJ persisted claiming that courts had no role in arbitrating what they call a “political” conflict between the Executive and Legislative branch. The House general counsel, Douglas Letter, told the court that a third article of impeachment “is on the table,” dependent upon hearing testimony from McGahn.
The same two judges joined a Trump-appointee, Judge Neomi Rao, to hear the grand jury case. Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl A. Howell previously ruled in October that the House was exempt from rules that normally shield grand jury material. On Friday, Judge Griffith advised the Justice Department that they were “going up against” history by arguing that the “gold standard” legal rulings in Nixon’s impeachment should not be followed in Trump’s.
Trump-appointee Neomi Rao made waves during her questioning by suggesting that there’s a possibility Attorney General Bill Barr could ignore a court ruling that the House was entitled to the grand jury information. Rao asked what the House would do if such an instance arose. Letter responded that the House could send out its sergeant at arms to collect the material, but “we don’t do that anymore” at the risk of having “a gun battle with Mr. Barr’s FBI security detail. Instead, we go to court. Everybody has recognized that we go to court.”
  • Some media outlets have reported that Letter seriously suggested the sergeant at arms should have a shootout with the DOJ in order to arrest Barr. You can listen to the audio yourself; Letter was using sarcasm to show that argument advanced by the DOJ was unworkable: the House doesn’t have any realistic alternatives to obtain information it is legally-entitled to, other than going to court.
  • Neomi Rao: Judge Rao had previously heard arguments in Trump’s challenge of the House’s subpoena to his accounting firm, Mazars USA. The majority ruled in favor of Congress. Rao, however, dissented with an opinion that has no basis in Supreme Court case law or historical precedent: She opined that Congress may not investigate the president, even for a valid legislative purpose, unless it through impeachment. As Slate correctly noted, her argument “would help place Trump above any congressional oversight and further insulate the executive branch from an important check by the judicial branch.”

*The Sides*

Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans

Full disclosure: I am a contributor to Forensic News
On Friday, Forensic News (led by Scott Stedman) reported that a whistleblower told the FBI that Trump’s Deutsche Bank loans are underwritten by VTB, the Russian state-owned bank. The whistleblower is Val Broeksmit, whose late father was an executive at Deutsche Bank. Forensic News has verified parts of Val’s story but does not confirm the claim that Trump’s loans were co-signed or paid off by VTB. Val Broeksmit has provided valuable documents and information to prosecutors that led to successful prosecutions and fines against the bank - this provides more credibility to his claims regarding VTB.
A subsidiary of Deutsche Bank, Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas (DBTCA), made the loans to Trump; it also maintained ties to VTB even after the latter was subjected to US sanctions. DBTCA owed approximately $48.6 million to VTB in 2013. Forensic News has verified these facts - yet another piece of evidence that supports Val’s claims.
Two Deutsche executives with knowledge of the alleged VTB arrangement—Bill Broeksmit and Thomas Bowers—have both committed suicide. Another, Rosemary Vrablic, has not commented publicly on the matter. It is now time she testify to Congress about what she knows. (source)
Finally, as one of the authors, Robert DeNault, points out - the timeline surrounding the article reveals suspicious activity:
Fri. (12/27): we notify Deutsche Bank about our piece
Sun. (12/29): Trump + Putin have mystery phone call
Wed. (1/1): we tell DB we are publishing Fri.
Wed. (1/1): Trump decides to kill Soleimani
Thurs. (1/2): Soleimani assassinated
Fri. (1/3): we are cyberattacked [and the site taken down for 24 hours]
Someone didn’t want the public to read Forensic News’ report… You can listen to the Counter Intelligence Podcast interview with Val here.

Manafort docs

Prosecutors told District Judge Amy Berman Jackson that they are almost ready to release less-redacted documents about how Paul Manafort lied during his cooperation with the government. CNN: “Unsealing the details could potentially explain major questions about Manafort's connections to the White House and fill in gaps about what Russia and Ukraine hoped from Trump after he took office.”
These details could potentially shed more light on Trump’s Ukraine policy:
Prosecutors said Manafort lied about 2017 and 2018 discussions with Kilimnik about Ukrainian policy, specifically, a Ukraine "peace plan" that would provide a "backdoor" way for Russia to control part of Ukraine, and their interest in getting Trump's support for it, according to the Mueller report. The FBI believes Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence, according to court filings and the Mueller report.

Venezuelan backchannels

Erik Prince
Two U.S. officials told the Associated Press that Erik Prince had been referred to the Treasury Department for violating sanctions by meeting with Venezuela’s Vice President Delcy Rodriguez during a surprise trip to Caracas last month.
...the fact the visit was flagged underscores the concern of officials in the Trump administration over what appeared to be anunauthorized diplomatic outreach to Maduro… the mere presence in Venezuela of a businessman with longstanding ties to the U.S. national security establishment prompted questions about whether he was there to open a secret back channel to Maduro on behalf of the Trump administration
Rudy Giuliani
Rudy Giuliani, currently under federal investigation for his involvement in Ukrainian foreign affairs, was also part of a second “shadow diplomatic effort” in Venezuela. The Washington Post (non-paywalled) reported that Giuliani spoke to Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro in September 2018 to try to negotiate Maduro’s resignation. This is counter to official U.S. policy and alarmed administration officials. At the time, Giuliani was representing a wealthy Venezuelan energy executive and pushed for Maduro’s exit in order to open up the resource-rich country to business.
Giuliani’s actions in Venezuela appear to be a clear violation of the Logan Act (18 U.S.C. § 953), which criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S.
Venezuela is definitely a country engaged in a dispute with the United States, and Giuliani was arguably acting “to defeat the measures of the United States” by engaging in shadow diplomacy that contradicted official U.S. foreign policy. In fact, Bolton explicitly rejected the effort. (The Washington Post)

Giuliani: Cybersecurity adviser?

Days before his inauguration in January 2017, Trump announced that he appointed Rudy Giuliani to be a cybersecurity adviser, working with the private sector to find “the answer to cybersecurity.” However, Giuliani had little-to-no experience of knowledge about cybersecurity and reportedly had little input in practical cybersecurity matters inside the White House at the time.
So, why was Giuliani named cybersecurity adviser? It turns out that it was not an official government job, but just a publicized informal role in an area that Giuliani was trying to build a clientele for his consulting business. The unpaid informal position exempted Giuliani from federal ethics laws that would have required him to “reveal any financial connections that might enable him to profit from his position.”
Without an official government job — but with a publicized informal role — the former U.S. attorney and two-term mayor of New York was able to present himself to prospective clients as someone with a direct line to the president, without any transparency for the public.
...Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who was a White House ethics official under President George W. Bush...“The bottom line is, you can’t just delegate any U.S. government function to somebody and simply because they’re not getting a salary from the government, they get to ignore all the conflict-of-interest rules,” Painter said. “That’s a nonstarter in terms of ethics. It’s a disaster.”
...Painter, the law professor, said the 2017 cybersecurity advisory position also had the potential for Giuliani to enrich himself. Because Trump never made the job official, he said, the public may never know whether that happened. “It’s just another example with this administration,” Painter said, “and we see with Ukraine it’s the same thing.”

Parnas shares info

On Friday, we learned that District Judge Paul Oetken will allow Lev Parnas to share additional information with the House Intelligence Committee. The materials include documents seized from Parnas’ house and files taken from his iPhone. Attorney Joseph Bondy said the materials are relevant to the impeachment inquiry and “essential to the Committee’s ability to corroborate the strength of Mr. Parnas’s potential [impeachment] testimony.”
Bondy updated the press on Monday, saying that the government turned over the seized materials and Parnas has begun to share them with the House Intelligence Committee.

Did China give Trump dirt on Biden?

A little-noticed October report from The Financial Times (FT) received new attention last week. You may remember on October 3, Trump told reporters on the White House lawn that “China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine,” Michael Pillsbury, an informal adviser to Trump, told FT that China fulfilled Trump’s request by providing him with more dirt on the Bidens. In an email exchange released by FT’s Washington bureau chief, Pillsbury said: "Actually, I got quite a bit of background on Hunter Biden from the Chinese."
However, hours later Pillsbury denied speaking with FT. The matter still has not been settled; we don’t know if Pillsbury was telling the truth.

Trump Org’s undocumented workers

The Trump Organization kept employing undocumented workers at the Trump Winery, recently firing them after workers had finished the annual grape harvest:
Nearly a year after the Trump Organization pledged to root out undocumented workers at its properties, supervisors at the Trump Winery on Monday summoned at least seven employees and fired them because of their lack of legal immigration status, according to two of the dismissed workers.
...“Donald Trump has known about these workers for months,” said Anibal Romero, an immigration lawyer who represents many of Trump’s former undocumented employees and is advising Miranda. “He waits until the fields are tended, grapes picked, wine made. He then discards them like a used paper bag. Happy New Year — you’re fired.”

Trump’s taxpayer-funded properties

President Donald Trump has pushed his taxpayer-funded golf tab past $118 million on his 26th visit to Mar-a-Lago, his for-profit resort in Palm Beach, Florida, with a Saturday visit to his course in neighboring West Palm Beach.
The new total is the equivalent of 296 years of the $400,000 presidential salary that his supporters often boast that he is not taking.
And of that $118.3 million, at least several million has gone into Trump’s own cash registers, as Secret Service agents, White House staff and other administration officials stay and eat at his hotels and golf courses. (HuffPost)
According to CNN, since his inauguration Trump “has spent at least 252 days at a Trump golf club and 333 days at a Trump property.”

Strzok’s lawsuit

Peter Strzok, the former FBI agent who launched the bureau’s Russia probe in 2016 and was fired two years later for sending text messages critical of Donald Trump, has alleged in a new court filing challenging his dismissal that the FBI and Justice Department violated his rights to free speech and privacy. (Politico)
Strzok’s legal team argues: “The government’s argument would leave thousands of career federal government employees without protections from discipline over the content of their political speech.”

McCabe case

Twenty months later, the Justice Department still has not determined if it will bring criminal charges against former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe for possibly committing perjury. In November, District Judge Reggie B. Walton criticized prosecutors for leaving McCabe in limbo: “This is not a hard case. I was a good prosecutor for a long time. Deciding whether or not you’re going to charge someone with false statements or perjury is not that hard, factually or legally — maybe politically, but not factually or legally.”
Since the case was first referred to the DOJ, one grand jury term has expired and a second did not issue an indictment. The Washington Post Editorial Board writes that “[i]t is hard not to read between the lines and see prosecutors who realize they have a bad legal case but won’t close it out for fear of angering the president.” Lawfare editor Susan Hennessey agrees: “DOJ refusing to close cases it does not genuinely intend to prosecute in order to place a cloud over the president's political opponents is abusive, illegitimate, and immoral. Once upon a time, we would have expected people to resign over things like this. Now, they shrug.”
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2019.12.24 01:09 transcendentmj why does no ine in my department rotate dates

just did a thorough date check of pillsbury rolls and found one that expired in june lmao. of course at the very back
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2019.12.10 17:28 El_Hombre_Aleman Work in Progress: The screwing of the Tame“

Dear Readers,
Here‘s a story I am currently working on, most notably the major scene still missing (clue: „here be....), but I feel like reader‘s input would really help me finish the piece. So: Enjoy, and tell me what you think!
The Screwing Of The Tame
This insane ride began when my friend and squash partner Christian invited me to friend’s dinner. I wasn’t really in the mood for being the third wheel in an all-cooey company, still adjusting to being single again after the divorce after more than 25 years of marriage, but Christian waved away my hesitations. His wife Annette, he explained, had put together an amazing guest list. He would not tell anymore. So anyway, the day arrived, and I went, of course.
We were 12 people all in all, and I knew about half of them. It was then that I met Claudia. She in her thirties, petite - maybe 1.60 tall, had shoulder-length red hair, and she was cutiful- you know, beautiful, but more cute than classical beautiful? And her beauty was of that wholesome, pure kind, not the sexual kind, if you know what I mean. The sort of woman you would meet at the church, the kind of beauty that Hollywood would use to light up the hopeless lives of hopeless shelters.
She had a radiant smile, too, and the cutest dimples that appeared when the smiled - the kind that make you do anything you see her smile. She wore a brown-red shade of lipstick, and skillfully applied make-up. Glasses covered her brown eyes, and when I was close enough I could make out the small wrinkles in her face, the laughing lines. It was then I began to really take notice of her, because I love women - not girls. I love the signs of having lived a life, and have laughed, and for the life of me I could never understand how a woman could possibly want to erase the visible signs of having lived. Maybe that was one of the differences that led to my divorce, but I did not want to linger over that thought.
Claudia was dressed in a long, red dress that just was tight enough to make sure she had curves all right, but not drawing attention to her body. With that, she wore some straightforward, moderate-height heels. I noticed with a hint of disappointment that the heels were closed, having discovered lately how much nicely painted toes turned me on. Still, that was for the best, I felt way out of my league already. After all, I was 50, balding, and while I did not sport a beer belly, I sportet more of a 18-pack than a sixpack to my 1.85 metes. On top of that, I was not holding a fancy, high-income job, I was merely a college professor teaching english and german literature.
To my surprise, I found myself in a long and lively discussion with her, and amazingly, it was so easy to talk to her. She was the first to understand my dislike of Philipp Roth, and was tolerant enough to weather my inevitable Salman Rushdie-rave. I had to felt that alive in ages! Every now and then, she put her hair behind her ear in a short, determined motion with her hands, and that small gesture, that mere flicker of her hand, was something that mesmerized me. She had carefully manicured hands, with long, slender fingers, and something about that began to... well, as I said, she was way out of my league. And I felt guilty to see her in a sexual light already, and anxious. It had been a long while. Sex had happened twice a year in the later days of my marriage, and then often came with performance problems on my side, so even if my mind kicked into the mindset of the 18-year-old, the body was still that of the 50 year old.
I willed myself to think about Günther Grass, and found out that I could make Claudia smile with recounting the most horrible puns by Shakespeare, so I did. I wasn’t fooling myself, though: I was falling for this nice, intelligent and beautiful lady. Boy, rarely have I ever been so wrong.
Dinner was wonderful, and Annette was wearing a smug grin when she noticed me talking to Claudia. „She‘s wonderful“, I admitted when I helped Annette carrying out the dishes. „How did you meet her?“ „She‘s in my book club, has just moved here, and is single. That‘s all I know“, Annette laughed though all my pretenses of indifference.
After that, the crowd begann to thin out - we had some drinks, and then it was time to leave. „Share a ride?“, Claudia offered. I may have been out of the dating loop for ever, but I wasn‘t stupid, so I agreed.
In the cab, she snuggled up to me. In the quietness of the car, I noticed a faint humming I had not noticed before. „Do you hear that humming?“, I asked her, not sure if that was real. „Of course, silly“, she replied, and squirmed in a most peculiar manner. „What‘s wrong?“, I asked asked, alarmed. She giggled, bend to me and licked my earlobe before whispering into my ear: „I just came from the vibrating egg I had in my cunt all evening“. I chocked, stunned beyond speech and reaction. Surely my imagination must have played a trick on me. But I felt her tongue in my ear now, and her hand on my crotch, and no imagination could have faked that. „I could use your help in removing it, you know...“.
I swear I almost lost it there and then. But we managed to reach her place, and as her door closed, she had me half-naked already. I kissed her, and she wasted not time to feed me her tongue, but after what seemed only seconds she turned away.. „I‘m not the kind of girl for kisses. I want something else“, she said, opening my pants to prove her point, and how did she get out of her dress so fast? I didn’t have time to admire her full, natural breasts, because suddenly, I found myself on my knees, with my face barely inches away from her pussy. I coulnd‘t believe it. This was the sweetest girl possible (she stills reminds me of the character of Emma Pillsbury in Glee), but here she was, pressing my face into her pussy. I smelled her before I could taste how wet she was.
I found her clit, letting my tongue trail though her wet slit, and I could hear the humming again, and then saw the string hanging out of her. I pulled, and the vibrating egg slid out, carrying a gush of pussy juice with it. She laughed with delight as I lapped away at her cunt. And then I saw the jewel in her ass. It was the first time I saw that in real life, and I swear it is the most exciting thing to see a plugged sweet ass for the first time as your face is grinded into a soppingly wet pussy. I felt her juices drench my beard and laughed with delight, and then ate her as she leaned against the wall.
I asked her to turn around, and buried my tongue in her butt cheecks - pulling up that plug just in time to reach the gape with my tongue. I could not believe how beautiful it looked. I zoned out and just followed instict and had my tongue fucking her ass. As her hole slowly closed it caught my tongue in it, ans she squealed in delight as her muscles tied to capture my tongue. Two orgasms later her legs shivered, and she turned to be. I had been so utterly lost in her pussy and ass that I did not have wasted any thought about my ability to perform, and just now realized I had an really aching hard-on. Claudia giggled, yelled about how she was going to use my cock to make herself cum again - I could still not process how that wholesome pretty face could produce such dirty talk, it was like hearing your mother talk about sex, if you know what I mean - pushed me on my back and lowered herself on my aching cock.
Now I‘m regular-sized, to be honest, and I was expecting myself to slide into that hot wet box, but she lowered her ass - the one I could still taste on my lips - on my cock. I had tongue-fucked her ass enough to enter her, slowly, and almost a bit to roughly for me. I was afraid to hurt her, because it did hurt me, deliciously, exquisitely - but it did not seem to bother her, it did not even slow her down. „God yes, I love getting my ass fucked“, she moaned, as if I hasn’t noticed.
So my cock went into an ass the first time ever. Anal had not been a thing when I was young, and while my ex and I had talked about it, it had never happened. And I learned that anal porn is to having your cock up her ass like licking a picture of a candy cane. It‘s hot and tight and not like anything else, and if you think about what you are doing, it‘s almost impossible to remain in control. Her ass hat my cock in a firm grip, but it felt good. She took the plug that had filled her ass and fucked her pussy with it as she began to ride me. It was out of this world - here was I, how had barely dreamed to sneaking a kiss from this innocent maiden, having my throbbing cock up her ass.
She must have felt me throbbing, because she urged me to shoot my load - or, as she phrased it, „my nasty hot fuck-juice“ - up her ass. And so I did. Some time later, when we had recovered a bit and were exploring each other in a 69, she confessed that she craved hard sex, dreamt of being used by multiple cocks, exposed and out of the blue, and I had reason to believe her, because she came on my face as she described her fantasy.
From that day on, we spend most of our time together - much of it with at least one of half-naked, to tell the truth. She was under my desk at college, leaving my office with a load dripping from her nose and mouth on her blouse, I ate her ass and pussy hidden under the table in the restaurant she had lunch with her co-workers in, we rode the subway with her sitting not only on my lap, I had an app omg phone to remote-control some toys she almost always wore, and almost always she wanted my cum in her ass - sometimes letting it seep out of her butt over time, sometimes plugging it to keep my cum inside and use it as lube some time later, and much more - but she never felt to tell me how she wished there were more cocks to fill her, and how she wanted to be surprised.
Weeks, months even passed, and we were still at each other like teenagers in heat - in ways that I would never have thought possible outside the realm of erotic fiction or lamest excuses of porn movie plots. But we did couple things, too, since this was real life and not a porn story: we went to movies and the theatre, we cooked and did laundry and we met each other's families, we enjoyed our circle of friends, we went on a vacation or two, and one-one ever, not even her closest girl friends, alluded to the difference between Claudias appearance and her true nature. I was happy beyond my wildest imaginations.
I remember one morning during a weekend getaway in Florida when, after an hour of eating her pussy and her ass, I finally fucked her with her favorite "natural" dildo, and then slid her vibe into her butt. When I activatet the vibe, she started to cum, not to complain, and told me to feed her my cock, and as I did, I jokingly mentioned that both of her hands and her feet were free, so she could service aix guys at once. Without batting an eye - and I can vouch for that, because I was staring at her deep brown eyes as she tried to swallow my cock - she never took off her glasses, by the way, no matter how often she made me cover them - claiming she loved licking them clean, and not wanting to get cum in her eyes, understandably - she replied "Six. My tits are fuckable, too", and came hard. Later, panting, she told me it was that idea, that long-dreamed of fantasy, that had made her cum.
And she made me pay for that. The next day, I awoke to her tongue spelling German words on my glans. She knew me well by then, and just as my balls started to tighten, she stop. just stopped. Ten minutes of intense kissing later, her freshly manicured nails scratched lightly over my balls. She had chosen a purple color. "You know why I chose this tone?", she asked in that husky voice I called "cum-charmer", only half kidding. "No?", I moaned. "Because it's the shade your cock head turns when you're about to cum", she giggled. And she was right. As her nails scratched my shaft upwards, and made it to my cock head, I could see my cock slowly morphing to match her polish. Again, she stopped. To make the long story short, she kept me in a contant state or erection most of the day, every half hour at least bringing me to the abiss, always, ALWAYS stopping in time. We were having a cafe in a nice old-fashioned coffee house in the afternoon, and when she was sure no-one was watching, slipped her hand into my pants (we both had stopped wearing underwear on vacations), grabbed me firmly and began in earnest. The sipped her coffee, smiled ever so innocently, and then, in the tone and intonation of asking for sugar, she sweetly said "Dear, would you now please cum for me?". I felt like I haven't stoppend cumming to this day, and she caught most of it in her hand. When she pulled it out, her delicate fingers where dripping with my cum. Literally. She held her hand over her cup of coffee, then starting licking off her long fingers very slowly, smiling very happily. When she was done, she drank her creamed coffee, and then she started telling me how much she would love to to have much more all over her body.
It was then when I finally decided to take the hint and began to hatch a plan.
I was coaching the junior handball team of my college. Handball, if you’re not familiar with it, is a rough sport, requiring muscles and stamina, and the 18, 19, 20-year old guys where all build like swimmers or rowers. And while I had never witnessed any girl-conquering talk, or locker-room talk, and would not have tolerated such derogatory behavior by my team anyway, I was certain that young men have not changed that much since my time... and I have, naturally, the key to the gym. The boys knew Claudia, of course - the angelic, sweet Mrs of their coach.
Months later, on a thursday afternoon, I went home early, rather than working late until practice, as I usually do. She was happy to see me, and I just told her I have a surprise for her. "A surprise!", she yelled. "Please tell me. Tell me. Tell me", she begged. I pulled out the blindfold, tied it, then pushed up her dress - no underwear, no surprise - and blew some hot air on her pussy. I could smell the juices that began to flow immediately. With a heroic effort, I stood up again - to her complaints - then led her out to the car. "We're taking a short trip", I explained. She sat in the car, in a practices fluid motion had her fingers in her pussy, and I decided to let her. When we arrived at the gym merely 20 minutes later, the car smelled like her all over. My favorite smell in the world. I inhaled loudly. claudia, in turn, had cum twice.
I let her up the stairs, inside, and unlocked the storage room. "Where are we?", she kept asking. But when we entered the storage room, she started to grin. I suppose the smell or gym rooms is hard to miss, and she loved being naughty in inappropriate places. So it was some surprise to her when I stripped her and pushed her over a good old fashioned pommel horse. She squaled when her naked skin touched the cold leather, but that quickly changed to moans of anticipation. I made sure her ass was exposed, high in the air, and tied her hands and feet to the feet of the gymnastic prop. "Now that's a new one... I love it", she cooed. I merely said "I know", and slapped her ass. In the small locker room, the splash echoed like a shot.
I pushed her pommel- those things are on wheels for transport - into the gym, on the field, right into the circle for the throw-off. I slapped her ass again, this time it echoed longer in the big gym. "Oooooh I know where we are", she said."You're such a bad boy". not wanting to disgree, I pulled out my cock and told her to suck it. I grew quickly between her lips. She told me "to fuck me already with that cock", and so I did. Her exposes behind gave me easy access, and being on that pommel horse set both her ass and her pussy in the the perfect height to slip into her while standing. I lathered my cock up in her pussy, then spread her ass checks and entered her slowy at first, then to the hilt, then began to fuck her hard, letting my body slap against hers and enjoying the echoing fuck sounds. I finally came deep into her ass, pulled out. I did not have to wait long for my cum to trickle out of her butthole. I snapped a picture of it, then blew my coaches' whistle. "What are you do......ooooooooh!".
I though I was utterly spent, and my cock actually felt chafed from the action, but I had to cum this one more time. Her face drenched, pussy and ass dripping creampie for days, even her hair looked like a gallon of greek jogurt had been emptied over her, and to my delight her feet where covered, too, she jerked my cock, gently now, making love to it instead of fucking it raw, she looked into my eyes and said "I love you so much". I came for her one more time, a truly pityful load, but it didn't matter. I reached into my pockets and pulled out the ring. "Claudia, I love you too. I want to make you happy and spend the rest of my life with you". I actually went on my knees. "Claudia, will you marry me?", I asked as I slipped the ring on her finger.
It may have been somewhat unorthodox to slip an engagement ring on a finger that is covered in cum, but it slid on easily enough.
We got married five month later, prienst and ceremony and all. When the captain of the swinger's cruise ship performed the ceremony, he took my "yessss", as the beautiful woman, a protestant priest from Denmark in real life, swallowed my cum, and her "Fuuck yesss", as the catholic priest from the carribean slipped his cock into her ass as close enough and pronounced us husband and wife. But that is a different story altogether.
And yes, we did live happily ever after.
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2019.12.06 18:50 bumblehoneyb Roaring 20's 2020 New Year's Party

This is essentially the prime/only time to throw a roaring 20's party to the goddamn nines. This post is going to be my own personal guide, edited as I proceed closer to the date. However, it's being posted to help give ideas to anyone else capitalizing on this fucking nifty idea.
Date: December 31st-January 1st RSVP by: December 22nd Time: 8pm-2am Place: Friend's house
Budget: $450.
Guest list: Planning for 10.
Theme: Roaring 20's
Invitations: Done through Canva
I actually did minimal research on what food was like in the 20's, finding this article. A quick, more thorough search will show other foods like Jello and such but with that in mind and knowing my guests, my admittedly unimpressive menu is as follows:
Won't lie, I'm cheating on my budget. I'm picking up ingredients with my regular weekly grocery shopping to plan in advance.
There are a lot of great cocktails from the 20's but I have no time to experiment so I'm sticking with how I know my guests. I've never created an alcoholic menu like this so by all means if this seems too much for 10 people call me out. I sent out a notice to guests that while there will be alcohol, it's BYOB if you expect beer specifically.
Water listed twice because I really don't want people getting too hammered to drive home, planning to have a pitcher on the dining table and in the main party room. I plan to provide accommodations for those who cannot drive home (due to weather or booze) and a breakfast menu of a simple Pillsbury croissants, fruit platter, eggs and bacon.
Backup: I actually might not get New Year's off, but I still want to throw this party. While I can prepare the food in advance and bring the decorations to the host's home, I also asked a friend to be my backup host. This just means I'll make a little sheet explaining what needs to be done so they can decorate/cook/host activities if I can't make it. It's a lot to ask, but luckily she's as big of a party fanatic as me.
"A little party never hurt nobody" door sign, Bubbly balloon displays in the entryway, Black and gold criss-cross curtains, black tablecloth with gold runner, 1920's news poster, fairylights in glass bottles, gold fringe chandelier, foil fringe doorway curtains, tinsel garland, fake pearl strings, black feathers, chocolate cigar and candy cigarettes display box
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2019.11.12 15:10 PM_ME_YOUR_QT_CATS A collection of HK rioter atrocities.

These rioters are no longer just rioters, they are terrorists.

  1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Archive of events:

Girl surrounded and beaten by rioters.
Man trying to remove barricade is beaten by rioters.
Man set on fire for voicing a different opinion.
Video of rioters beating Chinese patriots including beating a dad singing the Chinese anthem while holding his daughter who was crying after his dad was beaten.
Rioter trying to grab a police's gun is shot in the stomach while the police is wrestling with another rioter among other videos of rioters destroying the city including university campuses.
Rioter stabs a police officer in the neck and hospitalizes him.
Rioters chase a police officer and beat him while he is on the ground.
Rioters beat the police and throw things.
Resident is beaten by rioters.
Rioter mob attacks civilians and destroy property.
Office worker punched in the head and beaten when he shouts Hong Kong is China.
Rioters beat people on the MTR before police arrives.
Rioters destroy the University of Hong Kong.
Protestors beat police.
Hong Kong rioters use fake blood to try frame police.
Rioters block roads and train tracks, cut down trees and more vandalism.
Rioters siege the University campus and throws molotovs.
Resident beaten with hammers by rioters.
More big roads being blocked.
A taxi is smashed by rioters.
Rioters burning stuff.
Rioters beat up man in airport.
Protester in Canada tries to beat up a pro-Chinese before being arrested by police. (Canadian police brutality?)
Protesters beating up people.
Taxi driver is attacked.
Police baton is stolen by protester.
Protesters beat a man inside a van.
Protest leader cannot justify the violence used when confronted. This means this isn't all the work of undercover police.
Protester leader meeting up with US diplomat.
More commuters being blocked by roadblocks.
Rioters destroying a shop and smashing everything.
Rioters beat up a Japanese man because they thought he was Chinese.
Rioters spread road spikes.
Another collection of Hong Kong unrest and vandalism by rioters.
Rioters use lasers to blind police and terrorist citizens who don't agree with them causing injuries.
Hong Kong Protestors break into, set fire to Christmas Tree in a mall
Video of rioters terrorizing civilians.
Video of Hong Kong citizens taking a stand and berating protesters.
Celine Ma is pepper sprayed and beaten by rioters for disagreeing with them.
Home made bomb is detonated targeting police.
Hong Kong protesters confront a westerner in an airport and make fools of themselves.
Elderly Hong Kong citizen berates rioters while they try to frame her and point lasers in her eyes.
Rioter beating up an old woman.
Truck driver has head smashed and truck torched on fire for confronting rioters about road blocks.
Rioters use giant slingshot to hurl molotovs.
Rioters target school buses and threaten the safety of children of police officers.Maxim's Palace restaurant destroyed by rioters.
Rioters uses bow and arrows for destruction.
More rioter's destruction.
Rioters throw bricks inside metro station.
Man clearing barricades is beaten.
Westerner fed up with road blocks.
More rioter terrorism.
Rioters destroy university campus.
Rioters are being paid to cause destruction with a prize killing a protester passing off as a police officer.
Video proof of paid destruction.
US Pillsbury admits to funding the Hong Kong protests.
More proof of US funding.
More proof of paid destruction when destroying a restaurant, turn on captions if you don't understand.
Pictures of citizens being beaten up.
Foreign visitors leaving Hong Kong are delayed at the airport due to the rioters and they express their frustration.
Hong Kong protesters get embarrassed by Australian business man in Hong Kong.
Old man dies after getting hit by a brick thrown by rioters.
Video of rioters besieging the university and beating civilians and making illegal weapons.
Secretary of Justice Hong Kong SAR is assaulted in public.
Arson at Shatin court house is condemned by lawyers.

I have stopped compiling and editing as of 15th Nov, so there will be more acts of violence after this date that would not be on this list.

More in comments. Please add your own that I may have missed.
Here is an interview with a student protest leader with the conflict zone.
In this entire video the student leader is ripped apart, at 22:08 she says she does not condemn beating up the elderly who disagree with their opinion and do not condemn smashing and destroying shops who do not share their opinion. This is the democracy she says she is aiming for. She admits there is no representative authority in their movement and is uncontrollable and without plan. An uncontrollable mob of rioters without a leader or anyone who is authorized to make decisions is destroying the city. u/tmchung says the student leader does not speak for them and that there is a leader to the protest which is social media?
Let's assume for one second that social media is the protest leader and the protest is controllable. Then do you condemn beating up innocent people or not? If so, and you say the protest is controllable then why not make the atrocities stop?

Meanwhile, all of the pro HongKong protester posts are all cherry picked and cut in a way to omit context. Look at them if you don't believe me.

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2019.11.06 21:42 Dezkin Weekly Grocery Saver 11/6 thru 11/12

This is a snippet of available grocery stores and their prices which seem to be good or better than average deals. They're not all generic brand. The goal is to show that quality products can be found at reasonable prices.
Each store will have their own in-store specials and if you want to add any product you see as a deal, comment away and I'll add it in below. Also note, some stores like Smith's will have regional pricing (so I discovered that not all deals are the same at every store. So far Albertsons seems to be the most consistent on all Vegas store prices.)
Listing products by category first. Categories would go: Meats (fresh/canned), Produce (fresh/canned), Breakfast/Grains/Pasta/Bread, Beverages, Frozen food/treats, Misc.


## Get a free grocery item every Friday through their app.
## Note possible regional store pricing. Ask for a price match. These prices are pulled from their Craig location.
## Hint: On the Mix&Match, your total quantity of items in your purchase just needs to meet a mininum item quantity and you will still receive the lower price for those items.
## NEWS: Stores now accept VISA credit cards again!

Hillshire farm smoked sausage $2.49 (M&M10x)
Smithfield prime fresh lunch meat 8oz $2.49 (M&M10x)

Red Gold canned tomatoes 49c (M&M10x)
Green Giant canned veggies 49c (M&M10x)
Cache Valley cheese $1.99 (M&M10x)
Kroger cheese $1.29 w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Kroger sour cream/cottage cheese/dips 24oz $1.99 (M&M10x)
Land O'Lakes butter $2.49 (M&M10x)
Kellogg's cereal $1.49 (M&M10x)
American Beauty pasta 49c (M&M10x)
Pillsbury grands biscuits/crescents/cinnamon rolls 2x $4
Campbells's cream/broth soup 49c (M&M10x)
Progresso soup 99c (M&M10x)
Hormel chili 99c (M&M10x)
No Cow BaEpic/Go Macro bars 2x $4
Pringles 99c (M&M10x)
Doritos/Sun chips $1.99 (M&M10x)
Classico pasta sauce 99c w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Swiss Miss cocoa 99c (M&M10x)
Smidge & Spoon sugar 4lbs $1.99
Betty Crocker cake/brownie mix 79c (M&M10x)
Bakery fruit/pumpkin/sweet potato pie $2.59 ea w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Powerade 59c (8x)
La Croix $1.99 w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Coke/Pepsi/7up 12pk 3x $8
Honeysuckle turkey breast bone-in frzn 97c/lb w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Birds Eye Steamfresh veggies 99c (M&M10x)
Kroger frzn veggies 10x $10
Kodiak Cakes waffles/flapjacks $4.99
Brawny/Sparkle paper towels 6ct $3.99 w dcpn (F/Sa/Su)
Softsoap liquid hand soap 10x $10


*In-store hint:* Preload dcpns in their app.
Tbone steaks $4.97/lb
Hormel premium bacon 24oz $5 (F)
Ckn split breasts/drum/thighs/leg qtrs/whole 97c/lb
Deli 8pc ckn fried/baked $4.99
Fuji/Red apples 99c/lb
Lg Hass Avocados 69c ea
Green beans 5lb $5 (F)
Broccoli crowns 5lbs $5 (F)
Cucumbers 2x $1
Green bell pepper 2x $1
Green onion/Cilantro 2x $1
Roma tomatoes 99c/lb
Yams/Sweet potatoes 99c/lb
Jalapeno peppers 99c/lb
Signature Select canned veggies 10c First 4x Lt1offer
Lucerne chunk/shred/slice cheese $1.77 w dcpn
Kerrygold irish cream butter $2.99 First6
General Mills cereal $1.67 (3x) Lt2offer
Kraft mac&cheese 88c w dcpn
Rice a roni 88c w dcpn
Nature Valley bars $1.67 (3x) Lt2offer
Kellogg's pop tarts $1.67 (3x) Lt2offer
Doritos/Ruffles/Lay's Kettle $1.77 (3x) Lt1offer
Lay's Staxx 88c w dcpn
Betty Crocker cake/brownie mix/frosting 99c Lt1offer
C&H powered/brown sugar 2x $5
Signature Select sugaflour 4lb $1.99
Gatorade 8pk $3.99 w dcpn
Gatorade 32oz 10x $5 (F)
Coke/Pepsi/7up 2Ltr 99c w dcpn
Kona/Bud Light Lime/Shock Top/Michelob Ultra Pure Gold 6pk $5 Lt4 (F)
Signature Farms frzn turkey 79c/lb
^^^Will match lowest advertised price of Smith's thru Nov 27th^^^
Red Baron pizza $2.99
Blue Bunny ice cream/novelties $2.99 w dcpn
Value Corner toilet/paper towels $2.99 w dcpn
## Big Book of Savings
*(in-store savings booklet). Prices valid X/XX thru X/XX*

Smart & Final

In store hint: Each store does manager specials on products, look for them.
Gala apples 3lbs bag $2.99
Hass avocados 2x $1 Lt2
Kettle brand chips $1.79 (M&M4x)
Synder's pretzels $1.79 (M&M4x)
Pepsi 12pk $2.99 (3x)
Powerade 32oz 79c




Store usually has dbl ad Weds and Fri/Sat/Sun specials.
Boneless roast (london broil/chuck/rump) $3.49/lb
Colossal shrimp 13/15ct $6.99/lb

Red grapes 88c/lb
Navel OJs 88c/lb
Cantaloupes 2x $4
Hass avocados 2x $1
R.Y.O. bell peppers 99c ea
Italian/Yellow squash 68c/lb
Organic acorn/butternut/spaghetti squash 99c/lb
Chobani 99c
Oats rolled/quick/steel cut bulk 79c/lb
French bread 2x $3
Whole cashews bulk $5.99/lb

Whole Foods'

If you have Amazon Prime, check app for deals.
NEWS: Prime members Amazon Fresh is free, you have to request an invitation for the program.
Applegate sliced meats/hot dogs all $1 off
Creminelli sliced meats $1 off
Diestel Turkey Ranch sliced meats $1 off
Shell on shrimp 26/30ct $9.99/lb

Muir Glen canned tomatoes $1
Siggi's yogurt $1.09
Nancy's cottage cheese 16oz $4.79
Daiya non-dairy cheese shreds $3.49
Emmi kaltbach cave aged gruyere $21.49/lb
Cypress Grove midnight moon gouda cheese $19.49/lb
Kaasaggio originale gouda $13.49/lb
Lactalis le petit brie $11.99/lb
Sartori cheese rum runner bellavitano sartori $14.24/lb
Ile de france saint agur $13.79/lb
Mitica italian fontina val d'aosta cheese $13.99/lb
Herve Mons 1924 bleu $20.24/lb
Herve Mons camembert 8.8oz $7.49
Violife just like parmesan 5.29oz $4.49
Violife cheddar slices/shreds $3.99
Kerrygold dubliner cheese 7oz $3.79
Vermont creamery creme fraiche 8oz $4.49
Horizon organic cheese sticks 6oz $3.99
Horizon organic cheese singles $3.99
Organic Valley american singles $5.79
Paleonola granola 10oz $8.49
Pamela's products GF baking/pancake mix 4lbs $15.99
Lundberg Family Farms risotto $2.50
Mi Rancho organic corn tortillas 8ct $2.29
Daiya Foods cheezy mac $3.99
Stacy's pita chips $2.50
Garden of Eatin' chips $3.99
Lenny & Larry's cookies $1.67
Vega protein bars $2
Rao's pasta sauce $7.99
Muir Glen organic tomato sauce 15oz $1
Arrowhead Mills organic rye flour 20oz $1.99
Guittard baking chips $4.49
Bulletproof whole/ground coffee $12.99
Intelligentsia coffee $11.99
Field Roast roasts $11.99-$16.99
Pitaya Plus frzn smoothie pks $5.99
Blake's pot pies/mac & beef $4.49
Tres Latin Foods pupusas $4.69
Daiya Foods cheezecakes $6.49
Wholly Wholesome apple pie $8.99
Wholly Wholesome GF pie shells $4.99
Truwhip $1.99
Natural Decadence GF apple pie 9oz/22oz $7.49/$16.99

La Bonita

Beef sirloin tip steak $2.99/lb
Beef neck bones $1.39/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Beef marrow guts $1.49/lb (Th)
Whole pork leg 89c/lb (F/Sa/Su) or 99c/lb
Bacon bulk $2.49/lb (Th)
Mixed goat meat $2.69/lb (Th)
Ckn breasts boneless 99c/lb
Ground ckn $1.69/lb (Th)
Whole tilapia $1.49/lb
Salmon fillet $5.69/lb (W)
Whole grouper $2.99/lb (Th)
Fuji apples 2lbs $1
Strawberries 89c/lb
Tangerine 99c/lb
Black grapes 99c/lb
Bosc pears 4lbs $1 (W)
Grapefruit 4lbs $1 (W)
Papaya 79c/lb
Kiwi 4x $1
Key limes 2lbs 41 (F/Sa/Su)
Florida avocados $1.99 ea
Cucumbers 5x $1 (W)
Lettuce 2x $1 (W)
G.Y.O. bell peppers 3x $1
Green beans 99c/lb
Chayote squash 6x $1 (W)
Mexican squash 4lbs $1 (F/Sa/Su)
Butternut squash 2lbs $1
Eggplant 2x $1
Yams 2lbs $1
Garlic 5ct pkg 2x $3
Purslane 3x $1
Mexican green onions 3x $1
Brown onions 9lbs $1
Jalapeno peppers 3lbs $1
Habanero 2lbs $1 (W)
La Bonita corn tostadas 20ct 2x $3 (F/Sa/Su)
Rice dry bulk 2lbs $1
Springfield canned tomato sauce 4x $1
Brown sugar cones 99c/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Cacique drinkable yogurt 2x $1
Powerade 32oz 2x $1 Lt15x (F/Sa/Su)
2Ltr sodas 79c


Store usually has Wed/Thur and Fri/Sat/Sun specials.
Store special: Mariana's tacos 99c ea (W/Th)
Beef shoulder steak plain/marinated $2.99/lb
Beef stew meat $2.99/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Ground beef 85% $2.99/lb (W/Th)
Beef neck bones $1.49/lb (W/Th)
Pork spareribs $1.99/lb (F/Sa/Su)
El Mexicano chorizo 99c
Ckn drum 59c/lb
Whole tilapia $1.99/lb
Fuji apples 2lbs $1
Bananas 4lbs $1 (W/Th) or 2lbs $1
Red grapes 99c/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Limes 79c/lb
Lg Hass avocados 2x $3
Green cabbage 2lbs $1
Cucumbers 6x $1
Mexican squash 4lbs $1
Celery 2x $1
Jicama 2lbs $1
Tomatillo 2lbs $1
White onions 2lbs $1
Jalapeno 4lbs $1 (F/Sa/Su) or 2lbs $1
Sugar cane 1lb bag 2x $3
Hibiscus dry bulk $2.99/lb
Peruvian beans dry bulk 2lbs $1 (W/Th)
Peruano beans dry bulk 89c/lb
Mariana's queso fresco 10oz 2x $5
Meadow Gold sour cream/cottage cheese 16oz $1.99
El Mexicano rice 4lbs 2x $4
Mariana's prepared tamale dough 99c/lb
Juanita's hominy 110oz 2x $5
Springfield ketchup 24oz 99c
Mariana's citrus punch/mango 1gal 99c Lt4
AZ tea 23oz 2x $1 (F/Sa/Su)
Lemi lemonade 16oz 99c
Al pastor tacos 99c (W/Th)


Store usually has specific day specials.
Beef shoulder clod steak/roast $2.79/lb
Boneless beef chuck steak/roast $2.99/lb (Th)
Beef shank bone-in $1.99/lb (Th)
Beef tongue $4.49/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Pork boneless stew meat $1.49/lb (Th)
Prok bone-in cut meat 99c/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Ckn drum plain/marinated 49c/lb (Th) or 99c/lb
Ckn breast 99c/lb
Boneless ckn leg meat 99c/lb (F/Sa/Su)
Shrimp 36/40ct $4.79/lb
Honeycrisp apples 79c/lb
Valencia OJs 79c/lb
Bananas 3lbs 99c (W)
Pineapple 2lbs 99c (F/Sa/Su)
Strawberries 99c
Bosc pears 79c/lb
Papaya 2lbs 99c (W)* or 89c/lb
Pomegrante 79c ea
Guava $1.99/lb
Lime 99c/lb
Small Hass avocado 5x 99c (F/Sa/Su)
Green bell pepper 3x 99c
Celery 69c
Corn 4x 99c (F/Sa/Su)
Fresh Express salad blends 2x $4
Green cabbage 59c/lb
Radish 3x 99c
Cilantro 3x 99c
Cucumbers 4x 99c
Chayote squash 3x 99c
Mexican squash 2lbs 99c/lb
Jicama 2lbs 99c
Roma tomatoes 2lbs 99c (W)
White onions 4lbs 99c
Red onions 59c/lb
Yams 69c/lb
Whole/Bagged sugar cane $1.79
Serrano peppers 99c/lb
Jalapeno 2lbs 99c
Peruvian bean dry bulk 69c/lb (W)
Bulk brown sugar cones $1.29/lb
Springfield canned pineapple 99c
La Costena canned whole jalapenos 99c

Cacique cheese/creams $2.49
Casa Cardenas hominy 108oz $1.99
Sun Vista canned beans 99c
Lunchables sm 99c
AZ tea 23oz 59c
Coke 2Ltr 99c (5x)
Individual sodas 99c ea (5x)
*Taco Tuesday $1 ea

El Super (Sahara location used for store ads)

Pricing is good until X/XX

Boneless beef clod steaks/roast plain/marinated $2.79/lb (Th)
Chopped beef $2.99/lb (Sa/Su)
Ground beef 73% $1.99/lb (Th)
Beef tripe $1.79/lb (Th)
Bone-in pork sirloin end chops/roast 89c/lb
Bone-in pork half or whole leg 99c/lb
Pork country style strips/mix 99c/lb (Th)
Fud deli slice ham $1.97/lb (Sa/Su)
Bar S franks/bologna 99c
Ranchero chorizo 99c
Bacon 12oz $1.77 (Sa/Su)
Ckn drum/thighs 79c/lb
Ckn leg qtrs 59c/lb (Th)
Ckn leg meat plain/marinated 99c/lb (Th)
Shrimp 38-40ct $4.79/lb
Shrimp 51-60ct $3.99/lb
Shrimp 71-90ct $3.79/lb (Th)
Shrimp 60-70ct $2.99/lb (4lbs box)
Fuji/Braeburn apples 79c/lb
Bananas 3lbs 99c (Sa/Su) or 2lbs 99c
Pineapple 2lbs 9cc
Bartlett pears 2lbs 99c
Kiwi 4x 99c
Y mango 2x 99c
Persimmon 4x 99c
Papaya 79c/lb
Pomegranates 89c ea
Quince 89c ea
Guavas 2lbs $3
Watermelon 4lbs 99c
Carrots 3lbs 99c
Cucumbers 5x 99c
Corn 3x 99c
Italian/Mexican squash 2lbs 99c
Tomatos 79c/lb
Tomatillos 2lbs 99c
Yams 2lbs 99c
Red potatoes 2lbs 99c
Russet potatoes 10lb bag $1.99 ea
W.R. onions 3lbs 99c
Jalapenos 2lbs 99c
Brown sugar cones $1.29/lb
Banana leaf 89c/lb
Masa for tortillas/tamales 69c/lb
Teasdale hominy 108oz $1.99
Cuetara tostas crackers 79c
Marias cookies 2x 79c (Sa/Su)
Nestle evaporated milk 360g 99c
Niagara water 24pk 6x $10
Dasani 24pk $3.99
Powerade 59c (15x)
Coke 12pk 3x $9.97
Pepsi 12pk 3x $9.99
Pepsi/7up 2Ltr 99c (Sa/Su)
Assrtd sodas 1.5Ltr 89c
Awesome bleach 96oz 97c
Note: Will add remaining Asian stores later this week as their sale dates differ from other stores.
These are decent deals, but if you found a better deal while out there - share it and I'll add it to the list.
Saving trick: If a store runs out of a certain product that was on sale, ask for a rain check. You can use the rain check within 20 to 30 days and still get the discounted price on those items.
TL;DR - Food stuff.
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2019.09.26 11:30 weilim Trump Didn’t Kill the Global Trade System. He Split It in Two.

This article is taken from the Wall Street Journal written about nine months ago and sits behind a a paywall, so I decided to copy and paste it here. This article explains Trump's policies toward global trade and what has actually happened so far. I think the article does a decent job of explaining the Trade War. While alot has happenedsince the article was written, I still think its relevant.
However, what is lacking in the article, like many articles on the trade war, is it doesn't really explain the history of US trade policy, the laws that the US administration is using to place tariffs on China and the official justification for the US President in enacting tariffs against China. In my analysis I will cover those points.


When Trump entered the White House people feared he would dismantle the global system the US and its allies had built over the last 75 years, but he hasn't. He has realign into two systems. One between the US and its allies which looks similar to the one built since the 1980s with a few of quota and tariffs. As the article points out
Today, Korus and Nafta have been replaced by updated agreements(one not yet ratified) that look much like the originals. South Korea accepted quotas on steel. Mexico and Canada agreed to higher wages, North American content requirements and quotas for autos. Furthermore, the article points out Douglas Irwin, an economist and trade historian at Dartmouth College, calls these results the “status quo with Trumpian tweaks: a little more managed trade sprinkled about for favored industries. It’s not good, but it’s not the destruction of the system.” Mr. Trump’s actions so far affect only 12% of U.S. imports, according to Chad Bown of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. In 1984, 21% of imports were covered by similar restraints, many imposed by Mr. Reagan, such as on cars, steel, motorcycles and clothing. Protectionist instincts go so far in the US, there are strong lobby groups for both protectionist and freetrade in the US.
The second reflects a emerging rivalry between the US and China. Undo some of the integration that followed China accession to the WTO. Two questions 1) How far is the US willing to decouple with China 2) Can it persuade allies to join.
The second is going to be difficult because China's economic ties are greater than they were between the Soviets, and China isn't waging an ideological struggle. Trump lacks Reagan commitment to alliance and free trade. The status quo with China is crumbling Dan Sullivan, a Republican senator from Alaska, personifies these broader forces reshaping the U.S. approach to the world. When Mr. Xi visited the U.S. in 2015, Mr. Sullivan urged his colleagues to pay more attention to China’s rise. On the Senate floor, he quoted the political scientist Graham Allison: “War between the U.S. and China is more likely than recognized at the moment.” Last spring, Mr. Sullivan went to China and met officials including Vice President Wang Qishan. They seemed to think tensions with the U.S. will fade after Mr. Trump leaves the scene, Mr. Sullivan recalled. “I just said, ‘You are completely misreading this.’” The mistrust, he told them, is bipartisan, and will outlast Mr. Trump. both Bush II and Obama tried to change dialogue and engagement, but by the end of his term, Obama was questioning the approach. Trump has declared engagement. “We don’t like it when our allies steal our ideas either, but it’s a much less dangerous situation,” said Derek Scissors, a China expert at the American Enterprise Institute whose views align with the administration’s more hawkish officials. “We’re not worried about the war-fighting capability of Japan and Korea because they’re our friends.”
The article also points out unlike George Kennan in 1946 who made a case for containing the Soviet Union, the US hasn't explicitly made a case for containing the Soviets, Trump's administration hasn't, because as the the article explains its divided Michael Pillsbury a Hudson Institute scholar close to the Trump team, see 3 scenarios
Pillsbury thinks the third is most likely to happen, even though the administration hasn't said that it has adopted that policy. The US is stepping efforts to draw in other trading partners. The US, EU and Japan have launched a WTO effort to crack down on domestic subsidies and technology transfers requirement. US and Domestic concerns with prompted some countries to restrict Huawei. The US is also seeking to walloff China from other trade deals. However, there are risk with this strategy


Trump Didn’t Kill the Global Trade System. He Split It in Two.


My main criticism of this article is it tries like the vast majority of articles to fit US trade actions in the larger context of US geopolitical strategy. Even the author isn't certain "The first goes to the heart of Mr. Trump’s goal. If his aim is to hold back China’s advance, economists predict he will fail.". If you try to treat the trade "war" and US geopolitical strategy toward China as one, you will find yourself quickly frustrated and confused. If you treat them separately with their different set of stakeholders and histories, were they intersect with regards to China, but diverge. During the Cold War, trade policy toward the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc was subordinated to geopolitical concerns. For Trump, the trade issues are more important than geopolitical strategy. His protectionist trade rhetoric has been fairly consistent since 1980s. In his administration, the top cabinet members holding economic portfolios, those of Commerce, Treasury and US Trade Representative are the same people he picked when he first took office. The Director of the Economic Council has changed hands once, its role isn't as important as the National Security Advisor. While State, Defense, CIA, Homeland Security, UN Ambassador, National Security Advisor have changed hands at least once. Only the Director of National Intelligence hasn't changed.
International Trade makes up 1/4 of the US economy, and like national security its primarily the responsibility of the Federal government. States in the US don't implement their own tariffs. If you add the impact of Treasury policy and how it relates to capital flows in and out of the US, the amounts easily exceed the size of the US economy. Furthermore, because of US Dollar role as the reserve currency and US control of over global system the impact of Treasury are global. Trade policy and investment flows runs through two federal departments Commerce and Treasury and for trade also USTR. Defense spending makes up 3.3% of GDP, and if you add in related homeland security its at most 4%. Why would anyone assume that these two realms be integrated let alone trade policy subordinate to whims of a national security bureaucracy in most instances? With North Korea or Iran, trade and investment subordinate themselves to national security, because to Treasury and Commerce bureaucrats and their affiliated interest groups, Iran and the DPRK are well, economic midgets, but China is a different matter.
The analysis will be divided into four sections. The first will be to provide a brief overview of US trade policy since 1914. The second section will discuss why the US is going after China on trade issues, and why the US has resorted using a bilateral approach as opposed to going through the WTO. The third section we will talk about how relations with China is hashed out in the US.
The reason why I submitted this article, because there aren't many post trying to explain US-China Trade War from a trade perspective. Here is a post titled "What is the Reasons for America's Trade War with China, and not one person mentioned Article 301 or China's WTO Commitments. You get numerous post saying that Huawei is at heart of the trade war. Its fine, but if you don't know what was inside the USTR Investigative report that lead to the tariffs. its like skipping dinner and only having dessert When the US President, Donald J Trump, says he wants to negotiate a better trade deal with other countries, and has been going on about for the last 35 years, longer than many of you have been alive, why do people think that the key issues with China aren't primarily about trade at the moment.


Before 1940s, the US could be categorized as a free market protectionist economy. For many this may seem like oxymoron, how can an economy be free market and protectionist? In 1913, government spending made up about 7.5% of US GDP, in the UK it was 13%, and for Germany 18% (Public Spending in the 20th Century A Global Perspective: Ludger Schuknecht and Vito Tanzi - 2000). UK had virtual zero tariffs, while for manufactured goods in France it was 20%, 13% Germany, 9% Belgium and 4% Netherlands. For raw materials and agricultural products, it was almost zero. In contrast, for the likes of United States, Russia and Japan it was 44%, 84% and 30% respectively. Even though in 1900 United States was an economic powerhouse along with Germany, manufactured exports only made up 30% of exports, and the US government saw tariffs as exclusively a domestic policy matter and didn't see tariffs as something to be negotiated with other nations. The US didn't have the large constituency to push the government for lower tariffs abroad for their exports like in Britain in the 1830-40s (Reluctant Partners: A History of Multilateral Trade Cooperation, 1850-2000).
The Underwood Tariffs Act of 1913 which legislated the income tax, dropped the tariffs to 1850 levels levels.Until 16th amendment was ratified in 1913 making income tax legal, all US federal revenue came from excise and tariffs. In contrast before 1914, about 50% of UK revenue came from income taxes. The reason for US reluctance to introduced income tax was ideological and the United State's relative weak government compared to those in Europe. After the First World War, the US introduced the Emergency Tariff Act of 1921, than the Fordney–McCumber Tariff of 1922 followed by a Smoot-Hawley Act of 1930. Contrary to popular opinion, the Smoot-Hawley Act of 1930 had a small negative impact on the economy, since imports and exports played a small part of the US economy, and the tariffs were lower than the average that existed from 1850-1914.
Immediately after the Second World War, when the US economy was the only industrialized economy left standing, the economic focus was on rehabilitation and monetary stability. There was no grandiose and ideological design. Bretton Woods system linked the US dollar to gold to create monetary stability, and to avoid competitive devaluation and tariffs that plagued the world economy after Britain took itself off the gold in 1931. The US$ was the natural choice, because in 1944 2/3 of the world's gold was in the US. One reason why the Marshall Plan was created was to alleviate the chronic deficits Europeans countries had with the US between 1945-50. It was to rebuild their economies so they could start exports good to the US. Even before it was full implemented in 1959, it was already facing problems, the trade surpluses that the US was running in the 1940s, turned to deficits as European and Japanese economies recovered. By 1959, Federal Reserves foreign liabilities had already exceeded its gold reserves. There were fears of a run on the US gold supply and arbitrage. A secondary policy of the Bretton woods system was curbs on capital outflows to reduce speculation on currency pegs, and this had a negative impact on foreign investment until it was abandoned in 1971. It wasn't until the 1980s, where foreign investment recovered to levels prior to 1914. Factoring out the big spike in global oil prices as a result of the OPEC cartel, it most likely wasn't until the mid-1990s that exports as a % of GDP had reached 1914 levels.
Until the 1980s, the US record regarding free trade and markets was mediocre. The impetus to remove trade barriers in Europe after the Second World War was driven by the Europeans themselves. The EEC already had a custom union in 1968, Canada and the US have yet to even discuss implementing one. Even with Canada it took the US over 50 years to get a Free Trade Agreement. NAFTA was inspired by the success of the EEC. NAFTA was very much an elite driven project. If the Americans put the NAFTA to a referendum like the British did with the EEC in the seventies, it most likely wouldn't pass. People often look at segregation in the US South as a political issue, but it was economic issue as well. How could the US preach free trade, when it didn't have free trade in its own country. Segregation was a internal non-tariff barrier. In the first election after the end of the Cold War in 1992, Ross Perot' based most of independent run for the Presidency on opposition to NAFTA. He won 19% of the vote. Like Ross Perot before him, Donald Trump is not the exception in how America has handled tariffs since the founding of the Republic, but more the norm.
The embrace of free trade by the business and political elite can be attributed to two events. After the end of Bretton Woods in 1971, a strong vested interest in the US in the form of multinationals and Wall Street emerged advocating for removal of tariffs and more importantly the removal of restrictions on free flow of capital, whether direct foreign investment in portfolio investment. However, the political class embrace of free trade and capital only really took off after the collapse of the Soviet Union propelled by Cold War triumphalism.
As mentioned by the article, the US is reverting back to a pre-WTO relations with China. As Robert Lighthizer said in speech in 2000
I guess my prescription, really, is to move back to more of a negotiating kind of a settlement. Return to WTO and what it really was meant to be. Something where you have somebody make a decision but have it not be binding.
The US is using financial and legal instruments developed during the Cold War like its extradition treaties (with Canada and Europe), and Section 301. Here is a very good recent article about enforcement commitment that China will make.‘Painful’ enforcement ahead for China if trade war deal is reached with US insisting on unilateral terms
NOTE: It is very difficult to talk about US-China trade war without a basic knowledge of global economic history since 1914. What a lot of people do is politicize or subordinate the economic history to the political. Some commentators think US power was just handed to them after the Second World War, when the US was the only industrialized economy left standing. The dominant position of the US was temporary and in reality its like having 10 tonnes of Gold sitting in your house, it doesn't automatically translate to influence. The US from 1945-1989 was slowly and gradually build her influence in the non-Communist world. For example, US influence in Canada in the 1960s wasn't as strong as it is now. Only 50% of Canadian exports went to the US in 1960s vs 80% at the present moment.


According to preliminary agreement between China and the US based on unnamed sources in the Wall Street Journal article US, China close in on Trade Deal. In this article it divides the deal in two sections. The first aspects have largely to do with deficits and is political.
As part of a deal, China is pledging to help level the playing field, including speeding up the timetable for removing foreign-ownership limitations on car ventures and reducing tariffs on imported vehicles to below the current auto tariff of 15%. Beijing would also step up purchases of U.S. goods—a tactic designed to appeal to President Trump, who campaigned on closing the bilateral trade deficit with China. One of the sweeteners would be an $18 billion natural-gas purchase from Cheniere Energy Inc., people familiar with the transaction said.
The second part will involve the following.
  1. Commitment Regarding Industrial Policy
  2. Provisions to protect IP
  3. Mechanism which complaints by US companies can be addressed
  4. Bilateral meetings adjudicate disputes. If talks don't produce agreement than US can raise tariffs unilaterally
This grouping of conditions is similar to the points filled under the 301 investigation which serve the basis for initiating the tariffs. I have been reading some sources that say this discussion on this second group of broader issues could only be finalized later
The official justifications for placing the tariffs on Chinese goods is found under the March 2018 investigation submitted by the office of the President to Congress titled FINDINGS OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO CHINA’S ACTS, POLICIES, AND PRACTICES RELATED TO TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, AND INNOVATION UNDER SECTION 301 OF THE TRADE ACT OF 1974. From this investigation the United States Trade Representative (USTR) place US Tariffs on Chinese goods as per Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. Here is a press release by the USTR listing the reasons for placing tariffs, and the key section from the press release. Specifically, the Section 301 investigation revealed:
In the bigger context of trade relations between US and China, China is not honoring its WTO commitments, and the USTR issued its yearly report to Congress in early February about the status of China compliance with its WTO commitments. The points that served as a basis for applying Section 301, also deviate from her commitments as Clinton's Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky paving the way for a trade war. Barshefsky argues that China's back sliding was happening as early as 2006-07, and believes the trade war could have been avoided has those commitments been enforced by previous administrations.
I will provide a brief overview of WTO membership and China's process of getting into the WTO.
WTO members can be divided into two groups, first are countries that joined in 1995-97, and were members of GATT, than there are the second group that joined after 1997. China joined in 2001. There is an argument that when China joined in 2001, she faced more stringent conditions than other developing countries that joined before, because the vast majority of developing countries were members of GATT, and were admitted to the WTO based on that previous membership in GATT. Here is Brookings Institute article published in 2001 titled "Issues in China’s WTO Accession"
This question is all the more puzzling because the scope and depth of demands placed on entrants into the formal international trading system have increased substantially since the formal conclusion of the Uruguay Round of trade negotiations in 1994, which expanded the agenda considerably by covering many services, agriculture, intellectual property, and certain aspects of foreign direct investment. Since 1994, the international community has added agreements covering information technology, basic telecommunications services, and financial services. WTO membership now entails liberalization of a much broader range of domestic economic activity, including areas that traditionally have been regarded by most countries as among the most sensitive, than was required of countries entering the WTO’s predecessor organization the GATT.
The terms of China’s protocol of accession to the World Trade Organization reflect the developments just described and more. China’s market access commitments are much more far-reaching than those that governed the accession of countries only a decade ago. And, as a condition for membership, China was required to make protocol commitments that substantially exceed those made by any other member of the World Trade Organization, including those that have joined since 1995. The broader and deeper commitments China has made inevitably will entail substantial short-term economic costs.
What are the WTO commitments Barshefsky goes on about? When countries join the WTO, particularly those countries that weren't members of GATT and joined after 1997, they have to work toward fulfilling certain commitments. There are 4 key documents when countries make an accession to WTO membership, the working party report, the accession protocol paper, the goods schedule and service schedule.
In the working party report as part of the conclusion which specifies the commitment of each member country what they will do in areas that aren't compliant with WTO regulations on the date they joined. The problem there is no good enforcement mechanism for other members to force China to comply with these commitments. And WTO punishments are weak.
Here is the commitment paragraph for China
"The Working Party took note of the explanations and statements of China concerning its foreign trade regime, as reflected in this Report. The Working Party took note of the commitments given by China in relation to certain specific matters which are reproduced in paragraphs 18-19, 22-23, 35-36, 40, 42, 46-47, 49, 60, 62, 64, 68, 70, 73, 75, 78-79, 83-84, 86, 91-93, 96, 100-103, 107, 111, 115-117, 119-120, 122-123, 126-132, 136, 138, 140, 143, 145, 146, 148, 152, 154, 157, 162, 165, 167-168, 170-174, 177-178, 180, 182, 184-185, 187, 190-197, 199-200, 203-207, 210, 212-213, 215, 217, 222-223, 225, 227-228, 231-235, 238, 240-242, 252, 256, 259, 263, 265, 270, 275, 284, 286, 288, 291, 292, 296, 299, 302, 304-305, 307-310, 312-318, 320, 322, 331-334, 336, 339 and 341 of this Report and noted that these commitments are incorporated in paragraph 1.2 of the Draft Protocol. "
This is a tool by the WTO that list all the WTO commitment of each country in the working paper. In the goods and service schedule they have commitments for particular sectors. Here is the a press release by the WTO in September 2001, after successfully concluding talks for accession, and brief summary of key areas in which China hasn't fulfilled her commitments. Most of the commitments made by China were made to address its legacy as a non-market economy and involvement of state owned enterprises. In my opinion, I think the US government and investors grew increasingly frustrated with China, after 2007 not just because of China's back sliding, but relative to other countries who joined after 1997 like Vietnam, another non-market Leninist dictatorship. When comparing China's commitments to the WTO its best to compare her progress with those that joined after 1997, which were mostly ex-Soviet Republics.
NOTE: The Chinese media have for two decades compared any time the US has talked about China's currency manipulation or any other issue as a pretext for imposing tariffs on China to the Plaza Accords. I am very sure people will raise it here. My criticism of this view is fourfold. First, the US targeted not just Japan, but France, Britain and the UK as well. Secondly, the causes of the Japan lost decade were due largely to internal factors. Thirdly, Japan, UK, Britain and France in the 1980s, the Yuan isn't undervalued today. Lastly, in the USTR investigation, its China's practices that are the concern, not so much the trade deficit.


I feel that people shouldn't dismiss Trump's unilateral approach toward China for several reasons.
  1. The multilateral approach won't work in many issues such as the trade deficit, commercial espionage and intellectual property, because US and her allies have different interest with regard to these issues. Germany and Japan and trade surpluses with China, while the US runs a deficit. In order to reach a consensus means the West has to compromise among themselves, and the end result if the type of toothless resolutions you commonly find in ASEAN regarding the SCS. Does America want to "compromise" its interest to appease a politician like Justin Trudeau? Not to mention opposition from domestic interest. TPP was opposed by both Clinton and Trump during the election.
  2. You can't launch a geopolitical front against China using a newly formed trade block like the TPP. Some of the existing TPP members are in economic groups with China, like Malaysia and Australia.
  3. China has joined a multitude of international bodies, and at least in trade, these bodies haven't changed its behavior.
  4. Dealing with China, its a no win situation whether you use a tough multilateral / unilateral approach. If the US endorse a tough unilateral approach gives the impression that the US is acting like the British during the Opium War. If you take a concerted Western approach you are accused of acting like the 8 Powers Alliance in 1900.
  5. Trump was elected to deal with China which he and his supporters believe was responsible for the loss of millions manufacturing jobs when China joined the WTO in 2001. It is estimate the US lost 6 Million jobs, about 1/4 of US manufacturing Jobs. This has been subsequently advanced by some economists. The ball got rolling when Bill Clinton decided to grant China Most Favored Nation status in 1999, just a decade after Tiananmen.
  6. China hasn't dealt with issues like IP protection, market access, subsidies to state own companies and state funded industrial spying.
To his credit, Trump has said his aim was not to overthrow authoritarian governments, and that even applies to the likes of Iran. The Arab spring scared Russia and China, because the US for a brief moment placed the spread of democracy over its security interest.


At this moment, China or the trade war isn't an area of great concern for the American public, among international issues it ranks lower than international terrorism, North Korea and Iran's nuclear program.
According to the survey, 39 percent of the country views China’s growing power as a “critical threat” to Americans. That ranked it only eighth among 12 potential threats listed and placed China well behind the perceived threats from international terrorism (66 percent), North Korea’s nuclear program (59 percent) and Iran’s nuclear program (52 percent). It’s also considerably lower than when the same question was asked during the 1990s, when more than half of those polled listed China as a critical threat. That broadly tracks with a recent poll from the Pew Research Center that found concern about U.S.-China economic issues had decreased since 2012.
In looking at how US conducts relations foreign policy with China, we should look at it from the three areas of most concern - economic, national security and ideology. Each sphere has their interest groups, and sometimes groups can occupy two spheres at once. Security experts are concerned with some aspects of China's economic actions like IP theft and industrial policy (China 2025), because they are related to security. In these sphere there are your hawks and dove. And each sphere is dominated by certain interest groups. That is why US policy toward China can often appear contradictory. You have Trump want to reduce the trade deficit, but security experts advocating for restrictions on dual use technology who are buttressed by people who want export restrictions on China, as a way of getting market access.
Right now the economic concerns are most dominant, and the hawks seem to dominate. The economic hawks traditionally have been domestic manufacturing companies and economic nationalist. In reality the hawks aren't dominant, but the groups like US Companies with large investment in China and Wall Street are no longer defending China, and some have turned hawkish against China. These US companies are the main conduit in which China's lobby Congress, since China only spends 50% of what Taiwan spends lobbying Congress.
I don't think many Chinese even those that speak English, have a good understanding Anglo-Saxon society mindset. Anglo Saxons countries, whether US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland are commerce driven society governed by sanctity of contracts. The English great philosophical contributions to Western philosophy have primarily to do with economics and politics like Adam Smith, John Locke, David Hume and Thomas Hobbes. This contrast with the French and Germans. Politics in the UK and to a lesser extent the US, is centered around economics, while in Mainland Europe its religion. When the Americans revolted against the British Empire in 1776, the initial source of the grievances were taxes.
Outside of East Asia, the rest of the World's relationship with China was largely commercial, and for United States, being an Anglosaxon country, even more so. In Southeast Asia, Chinese aren't known for high culture, but for trade and commerce. Outside Vietnam, most of Chinese loans words in Southeast Asian languages involve either food or money. The influence is akin to Yiddish in English.
Some people point to the Mao and Nixon meeting as great strategic breakthrough and symbol of what great power politics should look like. The reality is that the Mao-Nixon meeting was an anomaly in the long history of relations with China and the West. Much of China-Western relations over the last 500 years was conducted by multitudes of nameless Chinese and Western traders. The period from 1949-1979 was the only period were strategic concerns triumphed trade, because China had little to offer except instability and revolution. Even in this period, China's attempt to spread revolution in Southeast Asia was a threat to Western investments and corporate interest in the region. During the nadir of both the Qing Dynasty and Republican period, China was still engaged in its traditional commercial role. Throughout much of history of their relations with China, the goals of Britain and the United States were primarily economic,
From the beginning, the allure of China to Western businesses and traders has been its sheer size I. One of the points that the USTR mentions is lack of market access for US companies operating in China, while Chinese companies face much less restrictions operating in the US.
This is supported by remarks by Henry Paulson and Charlene Barshefsky. As Paulson remarked
Trade with China has hurt some American workers. And they have expressed their grievances at the ballot box.
So while many attribute this shift to the Trump Administration, I do not. What we are now seeing will likely endure for some time within the American policy establishment. China is viewed—by a growing consensus—not just as a strategic challenge to the United States but as a country whose rise has come at America’s expense. In this environment, it would be helpful if the US-China relationship had more advocates. That it does not reflects another failure:
In large part because China has been slow to open its economy since it joined the WTO, the American business community has turned from advocate to skeptic and even opponent of past US policies toward China. American business doesn’t want a tariff war but it does want a more aggressive approach from our government. How can it be that those who know China best, work there, do business there, make money there, and have advocated for productive relations in the past, are among those now arguing for more confrontation? The answer lies in the story of stalled competition policy, and the slow pace of opening, over nearly two decades. This has discouraged and fragmented the American business community. And it has reinforced the negative attitudinal shift among our political and expert classes. In short, even though many American businesses continue to prosper in China, a growing number of firms have given up hope that the playing field will ever be level. Some have accepted the Faustian bargain of maximizing today’s earnings per share while operating under restrictions that jeopardize their future competitiveness. But that doesn’t mean they’re happy about it. Nor does it mean they aren’t acutely aware of the risks — or thinking harder than ever before about how to diversify their risks away from, and beyond, China.
What is interesting about Paulson's speech is he spend only one sentence about displaced US workers, and a whole paragraph about US business operating in China. While Kissinger writes books about China, how much does he contribute to both Democrats and the Republicans during the election cycle? China is increasingly makING it more difficult for US companies operating and those exporting products to China.


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2019.09.17 20:05 autotldr Gold Medal flour recall: Its 5-pound bags may contain E. coli

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General Mills is recalling five-pound bags of Gold Medal Unbleached All Purpose Flour sold nationwide after the discovery of E. coli during a product sampling.
The consumer warning to discard and not eat the flour comes two months after federal health officials announced the apparent end to an E. coli outbreak linked to other flour brands that sickened 21 people in nine states.
Walmart and Target are among the retailers who sold the recalled Gold Medal flour, which involved packages with a "Better-if-used by" date of Sept. 6, 2020, General Mills said Monday afternoon in a news release.
The flour being recalled has the following UPC code on its packaging: 016000 196100, according to the notice, also posted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Those products included several brands of cookie and brownie mixes made by Brand Castle, and specific lots of Pillsbury Best Brand Flour, King Arthur Flour and Aldi Baker's Corner All Purpose Flour.
Of the 21 illnesses in that outbreak, three required hospitalization, according to the CDC. Back in January, General Mills voluntarily recalled five-pound bags of Gold Medal Unbleached Flour nationwide due to concerns they might be contaminated with salmonella.
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2019.08.21 19:10 Twinkie_Face_1991 (Justno / Narc Mom) Came Face To Face w/ a Kirby Look Alike (directed here from justnomil)

(Justno / Narc Mom) Came Face To Face w/ a Kirby Look Alike (directed here from justnomil)

Hi. I used to post in justnomil but was recently directed to here instead. If this isn't the appropriate outlet just let me know. I feel like venting about her again so a place to shout it out into the world would be very nice. Thank you for your time
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[This is cross-posted to a couple support groups.]

Intro ahead, skip over if you already know my story, reddit peeps.
BULLET POINTS!! The sight of them makes my inner Leslie Knope tingle with joy.
Kirby is/was/did/yada-yada: - Dead by her own hand via the embrace of pain meds @ the end of 2018. (accidental overdose they ruled it. We think she was trying to be found & get to the hosital so she could blame me/us.) - Tried to kill me 24-48 hours before she died. Failed thanks to my Russian teddy bear hubs. - Had an APS case opened against her 24-48 hours before her death. - Was mid 50s. - Lived in the house owned by me, Hubs, & Bro. The family house was foreclosed on (her fault cause bills did not apply to her dontcha know). So the young people moved out & Kirby + Dad followed. - When my dad had a near death episode that left him a husk for YEARS I became his caretaker happily & willingly. Kirby forced me to care for her non-compliant ●ss as well. - Kept screaming that the house belonged to her & all the household paychecks (hub's & Bro's jobs + Dad's disability) were rightfully hers. - Could not get her evicted or put in a home thanks to her manipulation, fog, fear, abuse, & a legal web she wove like a f●ckin' doily. - The week/2 weeks before her death we were getting lawyers for Dad's divorce, eviction, & the beginning for ROs. - Was an expert in the art of mental, verbal, covert sexual, religious, medical, & physical abuse. As well as wearing the poor liddle ol' lady cloak & actress mask. - Had me as essentially slave labor for my whole life. I have an outlier memory (I was told that is the word) & can recall fragments from a very young age. My earliest memory is my Bro's birth @ 4 years old. Shortly after that it was my mother Kirby having me work in her store. I started by wrapping glass & cleaning up before I was 5. By the time I was 10/11 I was running her booth at the 100°+ outdoor & dangerous flea market while she wandered around, leaving me & my 6/7 yo brother alone to sell stuff. By 12/13 I did it alone, though then my dad was there to watch & protect me. Around the same time as the flea market I was given the responsibility of running her Ebay shop on my own. By 19 she went behind my back & got me as well as her a job @ a family acquaintances antique shop. 3-5 days a week, 10 hours a day, & a 20 hour shift once a year. Within 6 months she "quit" & had me work for her paycheck & I went to 5-6 days a week w/ days off spent working on her booth. She kept all the money & "let me buy things" to the tune of $40-$60 a month when I brought in quad digits. This was the first time I was really allowed to spend any of the money I earned (my dad gave me pocket change so I did have some money but he did it behind her back I think) I was forced to sell my own possession as well as actual stock because "don't be selfish, we need the money. We need to eat" as she was spending between $100-$1,000 5-6 times a day at thrift stores on herself & "stock". I made anywhere from $100 - $350ish a week by my work before the antique shop because I was not allowed to invest in the business itself. I also only recall selling a dozen or so of her things over those years. Plus my dad made a LOT of money at his work, enough to fund our lives & put back a chunk of rainy day funds. But she spent it like water.
So I am in my late 20s, over 2 decades being crushed under her heel while being manipulated to kiss her boot even as it turned my bones to dust. 2014 we moved & the abuse intensified when the home was mine. Eventually it boiled over so that my fog popped at the same time her family mask's strings snapped. Leaving me to slowly see the truth, then my family. But she is gone & the healing is happening. Slowly but it is going. I hope her hateful & evil ●ss is being roasted by demons.
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So long time no post. Stuff is fading & I am getting better. My health is being seen to. Nightmares are once or twice a month now instead of about 4-6 a week.
Anyway, what I wanted to share was how terrified I became this week. Hubs took me out on date night to my fav restaurant in our old town.
A few things that impact what happened:
  1. I haven't been to old town maybe twice since Kirby ODed. I lived there with her & the fam for like 14 or so years.
  2. I haven't been to the restaurant since she was alive. The last time there on a date w/ hubs she decided to make a disaster since my attention was not on her narc self. "Forgot" to take her meds then forced herself into a diabetic high that had her in the hospital. She "didn't remember any of her meds" even though she went to the hospital so much she could have just said same as before. She also needed me there right now. So we left before finishing & rushed back for me to sit in a hospital room all night & into the next day getting yelled at because she apparently knew more about NPO than me. Calling me a liar when I told her that NPO includes water. Screaming that the nurse never said that.
  3. No one in our area really looks like Kirby. She was pasty pale & greasy/soft/doughy. Like a yucky, grungy pillsbury dough boy left out to discolor. Oversized pores, freckles, liver spots, skin tags, stretch marks, sun speckles, & red spots all over her body. Massively overweight but not just normal overweight, swollen + puffy would be the best descriptor.
Her hands were like old school cartoon gloves. Fingers puffy & undefined, shallow straining dimples above her knuckles pulled tight as possible. Wrinkles nearly missing from massively swollen finger joints, nasty thin + rippled + yellowed nails that looked like they were stapled on. Fesh mushrooming around them that was bloody, cut, peeling, nasty. Puffy, swollen forearms that you knew had hefty muscles beneath the fat. Skinny stick upper arms that showed bone & muscle, flaps of skin hanging off of them like flesh drapes. Frighteningly fit/taught calves & emaciated looking upper legs w/ their own skin flaps. Giving Kirby a weeble on stilts effect.
Overall she was built like the rock that Spongebob & Squidward rode in the Krusty Krab pizza episode. Just a bit taller than me @ 5'6" or so. Hunched stance like old sketches of circus bears so maybe she was taller.
A.... presence, can't describe it well. You just.... knew she was there. Like, well I hate to compare it because it wasn't so powerful, but almost like a miasma. Plus a literal miasma of stench from her nasty nearly non existant hygiene.
Greasy hair like the chick from the ring, only a bit more brown & shoulder length. Her eyes dead like a shark's, heavy lids low so that her gaze was always menacing. Eyebrows that were so scant they were barely on her face. Droopy eyes set deep, the brow shelf/bone low. Deep frown lines & thin, constantly scowling lips. Large almost buck teeth that were almost always visible w/ a gap between the first 2. Cheeks that were more jowl than not, drooping like a bulldog. Mushy, flat nose that was barely more than flesh slapped on her face.
Basically very troll like or as I have used before walrus like. (Please don't say I am fat hating, I am just describing. I am pretty overweight myself •waves fatpass like white flag•)
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So now that some of you may need eyebleach (sorry). Hubs took me on a shopping & dinner date. My fav out of town restaurant (chinese buffet, I am not fancy at all, hahaa) was a big treat cause it had been a year plus since I was able to go.
Not many things triggered memories of her since old town has changed massively over the last 5 years. Just a big, Target sized thrift store she used to go to at least 5-6 days a week & spend $75-$1,000 98% of the visits.
Hubs & I like thrift shops a lot, it is one of our shared hobbies. He knew about the memories so instead of auto pulling into the lot like we normally would he asked. I said that the memories are too bad there & he said he understood. Then trash talked the shop a bit to make me feel better, hahaa.
Nothing else made me think of Kirby, I was happy & carefree. Halfway through dinner I was standing by the crab rangoons, a fav of mine I rarely ever got until this past year. Kirby would get them all the time & say they were too expensive to get more than one serving of 8 or so. Then she would eat them all in front of us while yelling that they were hers. (See at the top for the extra salt where she made no money, my dad worked a dang good job, & I was slave labor for her resale sh•t)
So of course I was smiling as I grabbed some, my forward conscious brain not even realizing my subconscious was prob mulling over the bad history. When I saw a hand piece my space bubble from the corner of my eye. A pudgy, doughy hand so swollen the knuckle creases were nearly non existant, the dimples straining & shallow. The forearm attached pale & marshmallow like, swollen. Dotted in freckles, oversized pores, sun speckles, & red spots.
I felt my heart freeze up & my blood run cold, ever nerve in my body fired up & I felt like I was drowning. I was frozen, my feet glued to the ground as waves of electricity ran up & down my spine & into my brain.
I felt like my eyes creaked as I forced them up the arm, over the loose T-shirt, past the ring chicka's hair in darkest brunette. Across the jowls, frown crevices, thin lips, flesh blob of a nose. Into she heavy lidded dead shark eyes.
My heart released & I was able to breath when in that split second that held onto me like an eternity I realized that it was a man in my space bubble. It wasn't Kirby. Kirby was dead.
I had thought I composed myself when I went back to my husband. But apparently my hand didn't get the memo my brain & face put out. He looked at my plate & asked if I was okay, if it was too heavy. My left hand was shaking like a leaf.
Hubs calmed me down & the rest of the night was calm & fun. It was just those 2 blips. One small & one heart chilling. No one in this area looks remotely like her. Sure I run into similar attitudes. People that have 1 or 2 traits that match, maybe even 3. But no one who was a dead ringer in all but age, smell (dude didn't have any smell at all), & gender. Never said anything or acted weird so may not have been an attitude match either.
It was terrifying & gave me nightmares the next 2 nights.
I ran into gender bend, stink free, de-aged Kirby in a buffet & went full Bambi.
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